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Vigilant E. Rodent, Esq. ([info]vigilanterodent) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-11-28 21:43:00


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Boxers, Briefs, or Other: Political Style
As many Americans (and non-Americans who pay attention to our internal politics) may be aware, Mitt Romney, outgoing Massachusetts governor, is "investigating the possibility" of running for president for the 2008 elections. (Translated into normal English: he's running for president.) And he's created quite a buzz.

Blogger and famously (for a very specific definition of "famous") gay Catholic conservative Andrew Sullivan has been talking at length about Romney and explaining his concerns about Romney's religious views in relation to his potential public duties as president. There's been quite a bit of (IMHO) interesting back and forth re: Mormons and gays/blacks/women, whether Mormons are Christian, etc. etc. So far, so good.

But then, things take a turn: Sullivan makes a post about Mormon temple garments, a.k.a. Mormon underwear.

Apparently, he gets lots of email about it.

Sullivan is one of those people who can maintain really prime wank pretty much all by himself, so that would be enough to amuse me, but because I love you I share with you the following interesting thread (131 comments at the time of this post) on By Common Consent, a Mormon blog. Contained within are people making fun of Scientology, whether the media ignored the whole Skull & Bones thing with Bush and Kerry, and the following (not so much wanky as actually pretty entertaining) exchange:

Maybe Sullivan needs a taste of his own medicine. You think Mormon practices are weird, wait until you hear what homosexuals do. I wonder if there are any pictures of that on the internets.

Comment by gst — November 27, 2006 @ 5:24 pm

gst, in the lower tubules that constitute Teh Internets I believe there are rendered captions of such things. You need to print them out onto foolscap paper, however, as they are ASCII-rendered drawrings.

Comment by Steve Evans — November 27, 2006 @ 5:27 pm

Wait a sec, did we just encourage our readership to go seek out gay porn?

Comment by HP/JDC — November 27, 2006 @ 5:33 pm

re: 47 This string is degenerating once comments like that start to appear. I would be happy, however, to provide information on homosexual underwear practices so gst can make his own comparison:

http://www.bananarepublic.com/browse/category.do?cid=9437


Comment by MikeInWeHo — November 27, 2006 @ 7:07 pm

There's also a brief but rather entertaining post (especially in the comments section) at political gossip blog Wonkette entitled Mitt Romney's Underwear Coverup.

Americans in the audience, expect to learn more about Mormon underwear in the coming two years (assuming Romney doesn't give up early) than you ever wanted to know.



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[info]hallidae
2006-11-29 05:43 am UTC (link)
......... So, would this be like the political version of sitting in the lobby of a con hotel and yelling at passing cosplayers "Boxers, briefs, thong, or commando?"

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[info]khym_chanur
2006-11-29 05:46 am UTC (link)
homosexual underwear practices

Heh.

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[info]scarah2
2006-11-29 05:49 am UTC (link)
So where did they say the gay ASCII porn was, exactly?

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[info]peachespig
2006-11-29 05:51 am UTC (link)
You think Mormon practices are weird, wait until you hear what homosexuals do. I wonder if there are any pictures of that on the internets.

I admit it: I LOLed.

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[info]panthea
2006-11-29 05:59 am UTC (link)
AGH MITT ROMNEY IS THE DEVIL. :(

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[info]seiberwing
2006-11-29 06:08 am UTC (link)
...it's UNDERWEAR. Who cares?

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[info]keleri
2006-11-29 06:22 am UTC (link)
You think Mormon practices are weird, wait until you hear what homosexuals do. I wonder if there are any pictures of that on the internets.

Pictures of homosexual practices? On the internet? What a silly notion!

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[info]wankaholic
2006-11-29 06:37 am UTC (link)
Nooo, keep Romney away from office!

On a completely different note, Slate has picked it up as well.

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[info]tez
2006-11-29 08:26 am UTC (link)
Mormon underwear wank. Best. Birthday. Present. EVAR.

Romney...oi. The man scares me. Has since '02. Oif.

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[info]napalmnacey
2006-11-29 09:17 am UTC (link)
You'd hope Mormon Undies are pretty fucking spectacular to cause this much wank.

Like, better than those elephant G-strings you can get.

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(no subject) - [info]shadowkitty, 2006-11-29 01:24 pm UTC
not very work safe - [info]quettaser, 2006-11-29 01:55 pm UTC
Is the red one for republicans? - [info]zealot, 2006-11-29 02:22 pm UTC
Re: not very work safe - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-29 03:30 pm UTC
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[info]tehrin
2006-11-29 09:28 am UTC (link)
Gackt's underwear has ruined underwear wank for me. Because that's all I see when I imagine "homosexual underwear practices."

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[info]slavekitty
2006-11-29 11:06 am UTC (link)
From the formatting of the LJ cut and a complete coincidence with the way it lined up with the user name, I read the cut as saying "(Unfortunately, the buzz is about his underpants. Romney is, you see, a vigilanterodent Mormon.) Which made this *really* interesting at first.

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[info]doroc_sabah
2006-11-29 11:49 am UTC (link)
wait until you hear what homosexuals do

Bartend, wearing pink.

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[info]alpheratz
2006-11-29 01:44 pm UTC (link)
New polls show 43% of voters will never pick a Mormon for president, because the Church of the Latter Day Saints isn’t crazy in the same exact way as Christianity.

My love for Wonkette grows stronger every day.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-29 02:51 pm UTC (link)
Out of general curiosity, is the basis for the "Mormons aren't Christian!" argument something theological, or is it mostly other sects going 'Ick ick ick, polygyny!' and coming up with spurious reasons?
- MA mouse, who is fascinated by religious infighting and disownment

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Fun with theology! - [info]vigilanterodent, 2006-11-29 05:25 pm UTC
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[info]ladyofviolets
2006-11-29 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I'm an uni student and my uni's located just across the street of the main Mormon headquarters in Chile.

*looks through the PC lab's window and sees the white Mormon HQ *

TMI, PEOPLE, TMI. OO;;;

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[info]ladyofviolets
2006-11-29 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Oh, and BTW... What was the name of that movie where a Mormon guy became a porn star or something? Or am I just having TMI-induced hallucinations? :0

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[info]b_jellybean
2006-11-29 07:15 pm UTC (link)
Sadly, my only thought on the whole thing is that I would be REALLY sore all the time if my boobs had that level of non-support from my underwear.

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[info]livviebway
2006-11-29 07:40 pm UTC (link)
God, I move out of Utah and already I miss teh crazeh.

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[info]okalintu
2006-11-29 07:57 pm UTC (link)
You think Mormon practices are weird, wait until you hear what homosexuals do. I wonder if there are any pictures of that on the internets.

I just can't get over the laughter. S/he's new, isn't s/he?

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[info]entelodont
2006-11-29 08:23 pm UTC (link)
I just like the phrase "the buzz is about his underpants".

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[info]eilan
2006-11-29 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Every time I read something about the Mormon church, I either read LDS as

a) Church of Latter-day Scientists (I have no idea where that comes from)

or

b) LSD

Makes for some fun and confusing reading.

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[info]seraphtrevs
2006-11-29 11:45 pm UTC (link)
In one of the e-mails:

But since your religion has been around longer, you get to be the mean schoolgirl tormenting the new girl on the playground.

I never, ever, ever thought I'd see Snacky's law invoked in religious debate.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-30 12:48 am UTC (link)
If Romney's experience as governor is any indication, he'll spend his presidency traveling the world and badmouthing the US to try to get elected UN secretary-general.

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[info]fevered_ego
2006-11-30 01:03 am UTC (link)
I was taken in by a pack of wild Mormons when my mom kicked me out, and they were great people. Very, very devout Garment-wearing types whose manyh kids were all in varying stages of rebellion. For the most part, it was an okay culture to be around. But then I realized I was gay and found out the church only allowed blacks to hold the priesthood a few years before I was born (women still can't), and all the fun went out of it.

But anyway. Hang out with someone who comes from the more conservative stripe of the church and you'll hear many amusingly apocryphal stories about the benefits of wearing Garments (Or "Sacred Jesus Panties" as I like to call them). The best one involved a woman who was severely burned in an accident in all the places she wasn't protected. Proof that God is kind of a jerk, I guess.

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