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Nomes ([info]onaga) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-11-29 20:57:00


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Having multiple kids makes you a racist!
Over at Pandagon, sharp-tongued blogger Amanda writes a takedown of a rather muddled op-ed by Mark Steyn in the Chicago Sun-Times. Her takedown focuses on how the author of the piece is apparently bemoaning the dearth of white babies being born, given that part of his article includes a section on a Palestinian grandmother who became the oldest suicide bomber on record over the weekend and how her grandkids will basically grow up and take over the world, and another section on his hard-on for Scarlett Johansson and how she's a tawdry whore for getting tested for HIV and condemning Pres. Bush's opposition to sex ed instead of having Steyn's white babies.

In the comments, Deep Thought and Tuomas claim that there's no racism at all and that Amanda is attacking a strawman, given that Steyn also criticizes Condoleeza Rice. And from there it all devolves into nearly 200 posts of wank about coded racism and the Quiverfull movement.

Really, I'm just posting this for the ASCII tank.


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[info]seiberwing
2006-11-30 03:52 am UTC (link)
Oh, forget the wank.

Well, there exists one pair of blue eyes that I’m very fond of, but they’re attatched to a man who has a beard made of tentacles, and I don’t think that’s quite what this entitled dweeb had in mind.

Also they’re CGI, so it doesn’t count as an argument for preserving whiteness.


This wins.

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[info]mmanurere
2006-11-30 03:55 am UTC (link)
Honestly? The "Quiverfull" people are pretty painfully racist.

That said, I see wanking from all sides here.

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Hmmm. My comment didn't post.
[info]lizzypaul
2006-11-30 09:50 am UTC (link)
Not all of them are racist. I know a few African American Quiverfull devotees.

That said, a lot of the Quiverfull folks in California just seem intent on out-breeding the Mexicans*, so yeah, there is a strain of raciscm running through much of it.

*Because for some reason, ignorant, racist Californians can't figure out that Mexicans are not the only Latino group around.

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[info]darkrose
2006-11-30 04:10 am UTC (link)
This has actually been going on for a while. DT and Tuomas insist that there's nothing at all racist about the "Quiverfull" philosophy. And if you simply look at the "having multiple kids" element, that's true. The problem is that many of the people who are insisting that women should have as many babies as possible are also pointing to the fact that birthrates in European countries are falling--except among immigrant groups, most of whom are Muslim--and claiming that's where the U.S. is headed.

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[info]onaga
2006-11-30 05:16 am UTC (link)
I took out the part of my report that referred to DT and Tuomas as being trolls, because I thought that would be too grudgy. XD

You're totally right, though. Although I guess it's really more to do with Eurocentrism and Orientalism than with plain old "them brown people is breedin' too fast!" racism. But somehow DT doesn't seem like he'd accept an argument along those lines. (Can you tell we just finished covering Said in my lit theory class?)

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[info]grrliz
2006-11-30 04:24 am UTC (link)
Ooh, that tank is awesome.

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[info]semirecluse
2006-11-30 04:32 am UTC (link)
:( It's reminding me of that awful "lollercaust" ASCII.

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[info]willywanka
2006-11-30 05:21 am UTC (link)
coded racism

< font size="24"color="#ffffff"face="cracker">Your text goes here.</font>

New LJ feature, coming Jan 2007! Supports multiple slurs.

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[info]willywanka
2006-11-30 05:23 am UTC (link)
Oops, I meant to leave that end tag open.

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[info]puipui
2006-11-30 09:01 am UTC (link)
*snickers madly*

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[info]lizzypaul
2006-11-30 06:54 am UTC (link)
The Quiverfull movement was HUGE at our church. I still remember the sunday morning when a lady stood up to testify, and said, "I had my IUD removed and my period started this morning, praise Jesus!"

Daddy always told folks that his quiver was really, really small, and four kids more than filled it up.

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[info]brown_betty
2006-11-30 08:41 am UTC (link)
…ew.

You know, I never thought I'd say this, but some people need to be MORE REPRESSED about their bodily processes.

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(no subject) - [info]lizzypaul, 2006-11-30 09:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brown_betty, 2006-11-30 09:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lizzypaul, 2006-11-30 09:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-11-30 10:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2006-11-30 10:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]popmuzik, 2006-11-30 03:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-11-30 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2006-11-30 10:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-12-01 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-12-01 07:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2006-11-30 10:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2006-11-30 03:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]funwithrage, 2006-11-30 05:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]number13baby, 2006-11-30 10:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - verthandi, 2006-12-01 12:53 am UTC

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Re: A trip to the woodshed?
[info]number13baby
2006-11-30 08:25 am UTC (link)
Right? I mean, Birthing God's Mighty Warriors? What the shit? Y HALO THAR, Stormfront. We are living in the last days, indeed.

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Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]kijikun, 2006-11-30 09:19 am UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 05:00 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]number13baby, 2006-11-30 09:56 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 10:42 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed?
[info]aerobot
2006-11-30 11:01 am UTC (link)
The more children there are in society, the more pro-life that society will become, and the easier it will be for the great evil of abortion to be eradicated once and for all.

*HEAD EXPLODES*

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Re: A trip to the woodshed? - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-12-01 06:47 am UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]aerobot, 2006-12-01 11:40 am UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed?
[info]seiberwing
2006-11-30 05:02 pm UTC (link)
They're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation: contraception, women's careers, abortion, divorce, homosexuality and child abuse, in that order.

Riiiiiight.

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Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]smo, 2006-11-30 07:13 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 07:29 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]lillyv, 2006-11-30 08:56 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]smo, 2006-11-30 10:38 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]number13baby, 2006-11-30 10:01 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 10:41 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]number13baby, 2006-11-30 10:50 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 10:54 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]number13baby, 2006-11-30 11:03 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 11:05 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]number13baby, 2006-11-30 11:43 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-11-30 11:59 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-12-01 06:50 am UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-12-01 06:53 am UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]aerobot, 2006-12-01 11:42 am UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-12-01 12:35 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed? - [info]seiberwing, 2006-12-01 03:25 pm UTC
Re: A trip to the woodshed?
[info]kalypsi_cat
2006-12-01 06:04 am UTC (link)
I want to get these people and the hardcore childfree folk in a room together.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-11-30 10:32 am UTC (link)
I mean, seriously, I have not seen a single argument that indicates to me that there’s anything about whiteness that needs preserving. The rosacea? The cataract-prone blue eyes? The imperialist bent? Are we easier to see at night on bicycles?

Hee. Tee hee.

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[info]aerobot
2006-11-30 11:02 am UTC (link)
That part was the best. XD

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[info]shallow_kid
2006-11-30 04:56 pm UTC (link)
At this point, I'm not seeing anything about humanity in general that needs to be preserved. Except cat macros.

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[info]shallow_kid
2006-11-30 04:58 pm UTC (link)
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

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dracothelizard
2006-11-30 05:51 pm UTC (link)
*is so glad to be in Europe right now*

Hurrah for birthcontrol pills that's covered by my health insurance until I'm 21! Hurrah for all the student council folk around here who give out free condoms! Hurrah for posters with a tampon on it saying 'would you use this after someone else had?' to make people aware of safe sex.

Hurrah for sex ed!

And although I'm not sure why you'd have a HIV test twice a year if you have a safe sex, accidents do happen and props to whoever gets tested for STDs occasionally.

And for heaven's sake, my mother was one of thirteen children, but she only has three kids, and the world is overpopulated as it is already!

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[info]funwithrage
2006-12-01 06:03 am UTC (link)
Word.

Also, don't you guys get something like four weeks' paid vacation? Europe rules.



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(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-12-01 02:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]funwithrage, 2006-12-02 03:36 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-12-02 04:01 am UTC
thoughts on yaoi - [info]dwarfjen, 2006-12-01 07:06 pm UTC
Re: thoughts on yaoi - [info]funwithrage, 2006-12-02 03:36 am UTC

[info]smo
2006-11-30 07:14 pm UTC (link)
...What the FUCK is that guy smoking?

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[info]karmyn75
2006-11-30 09:16 pm UTC (link)
So does this mean my sister and two of my aunts are going to hell because they only have one child? Forget that my sister has fertility problems and one aunt didn't have her son until she was 35. I guess they're going to hell. So sorry you're all devout Christians, but having one child doesn't really fulfill the whole 'go forth and multiply thing' so you're doomed.
Bunch of loonies.

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