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hallidae (hallidae) wrote in otf_wank,
@ 2006-12-31 23:54:00

BRPS is at it again-
-but it seems to have very little to do with sucky roleplaying and everything to do with massive tl;dr posts about people's thoughts on yaoi
And the People Who Play It
Why No One Gets the Gay and Everyone Should STFU
Gender Roles and How They ALWAYS Affect What One Roleplays (This one's particularly special, considering when she's presented with the fact that all women don't fit into her happy little boxes she'll later blame all her generalizations on being raised in the fundie!South that's full of people who need to die in a fire for making her believe that way, and OMGITSJUSTOPINION), and
Soapboxing and Why It Sucks, But I'm Doing It Anyway, You Fucking Hypocrites.

But don't miss out on the rage of the yaoi fangirls, the people who hate yaoi, and the people who rant about ranting. At over four hundred comments and spread out over four posts in the course of one day, it's managed to be at least somewhat interesting.

ETA: And It Continues... At least this one manages to be amusing.

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	iris 2007-01-01 06:16 am UTC (link)
	The first couple posts I actually followed as they went up, but by the third one it was just way too tl;dr. (Reply to this)(Thread)

hallidae
2007-01-01 06:22 am UTC (link)

That third one about killed me. Originally being from a Tennessee backwater myself, I lived around some of the types of people she's whining about. Hell, my dad's really close to it himself. But you know what? They didn't manage to shape my entire outlook on genders and I didn't take that outlook onto the internet to spout it as the truth. So using that as an excuse for her giant post on why women play homosexual men because they're delicate flowers with penis envy fails more than a little.

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iris, 2007-01-01 06:27 am UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-01 06:07 pm UTC

singe, 2007-01-01 06:37 pm UTC

janegraddell, 2007-01-01 10:09 pm UTC

hallidae, 2007-01-01 10:19 pm UTC

jat_sapphire, 2007-01-02 06:06 am UTC

	thesilentsenshi 2007-01-01 06:23 am UTC (link)
	I know. I did too. I was so disappointed. I thought the third one was a mod hammer at first. ); (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

thesilentsenshi, 2007-01-01 06:26 am UTC

hallidae, 2007-01-01 06:27 am UTC

thesilentsenshi, 2007-01-01 06:35 am UTC

smo, 2007-01-01 10:59 am UTC

drhenryjekyll, 2007-01-01 08:48 pm UTC

teruhiko, 2007-01-02 04:01 pm UTC

	dhaunea 2007-01-01 06:31 am UTC (link)
	I don't know about you, but I just love hearing other people explain why their personal experience with RP/sociology class/gender roles define anything other than, well, their personal experience - because they don't. Generalizations FTF. (Reply to this)(Thread)

smo, 2007-01-01 10:24 am UTC

dhaunea, 2007-01-01 03:31 pm UTC

smo, 2007-01-01 11:54 pm UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2007-01-01 06:33 am UTC (link)

dieinahole's academic posturing makes my brain hurt. She's using a bunch of bad stereotypes from an admittedly imperfect worldview to enlighten the rest of us about the intricacies of the human mind And goes on about how "This is the way it is. . .but that's just my opinion, so don't flame. And PS: my boyfriend agrees with me, so I can fully understand how all men work."

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thesilentsenshi, 2007-01-01 06:38 am UTC

tez, 2007-01-01 07:02 am UTC

thesilentsenshi, 2007-01-01 07:10 am UTC

tez, 2007-01-01 07:13 am UTC

thesilentsenshi, 2007-01-01 07:16 am UTC

entelodont, 2007-01-01 06:51 am UTC

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-01-01 07:32 am UTC

vigilanterodent, 2007-01-01 08:50 am UTC

bubosquared, 2007-01-01 05:32 pm UTC

jerel, 2007-01-01 04:50 pm UTC

vigilanterodent, 2007-01-01 08:20 am UTC

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-01-01 08:33 am UTC

vigilanterodent, 2007-01-01 08:46 am UTC

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-01-01 09:26 am UTC

smo, 2007-01-01 11:03 am UTC

jerel, 2007-01-01 04:56 pm UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-01 06:10 pm UTC

amxjm, 2007-01-02 07:06 am UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-02 07:11 am UTC

mmanurere, 2007-01-01 07:14 pm UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-02 07:11 am UTC

ladyvorkosigan, 2007-01-01 04:39 pm UTC

onaga, 2007-01-01 09:14 pm UTC

ara, 2007-01-02 04:08 pm UTC

pharae
2007-01-01 06:57 am UTC (link)

If a straight girl wants to reverse the role that she plays in real life (I.E. taking all the time) and be the dominant partner, with a guy, then she has two choices in RP.
A) She can play a dominant female... with a strap on or. B) a homosexual male.

Apparently all straight females are subs, all gay guys are doms and all women who use strapons are, of course, doms.

OKAY!

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mmanurere, 2007-01-01 07:15 pm UTC

scarah2, 2007-01-02 03:00 am UTC

	sparkofmyteens 2007-01-01 06:59 am UTC (link)
	I only read the gender roles ... or whatever it was and I do not understand what is going on. D: I blame this on being from a racist Alabama town. And also, on my penis envy. IT CLOUDED MY MIND D: (Reply to this)

	musouka 2007-01-01 07:03 am UTC (link)
	Oh god. Here comes the "no one is ever good at playing someone of another gender. EVAR!" I've lost track of how many times I've been mistaken for a [gay] guy online--by other gay guys. And I don't even RP. I guess my brain is just wired wrong. (Reply to this)(Thread)

faultypremise, 2007-01-01 07:46 am UTC

musouka, 2007-01-01 08:47 am UTC

(no subject) - redwarrior, 2007-01-07 01:34 am UTC

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-01-01 09:25 am UTC

soupspooks, 2007-01-01 06:55 pm UTC

jat_sapphire, 2007-01-02 06:11 am UTC

soupspooks, 2007-01-02 06:28 am UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-02 12:01 am UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-02 12:01 am UTC

brown_betty, 2007-01-02 03:39 am UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-02 03:52 am UTC

bobgenghiskhan, 2007-01-05 03:35 am UTC

	smo 2007-01-01 10:25 am UTC (link)
	Wow, someone really fails at sockpuppetry. (Reply to this)(Thread)

oh_envy, 2007-01-01 10:50 am UTC

smo, 2007-01-01 10:51 am UTC

oh_envy, 2007-01-01 10:55 am UTC

smo, 2007-01-01 11:00 am UTC

janegraddell, 2007-01-01 10:16 pm UTC

smo, 2007-01-01 11:45 pm UTC

	khym_chanur 2007-01-01 10:51 am UTC (link)
	Thoughts on yaoi? In BRPS? It's more likely than you think. (Reply to this)

	tez 2007-01-01 11:11 am UTC (link)
	dieinahole should take the advice of her LJ name. That is all. The total fail at sockpuppetry is cracking my shit up though. (Reply to this)(Thread)

ecchaniz0r, 2007-01-01 04:31 pm UTC

tez, 2007-01-01 09:20 pm UTC

	suziecroft 2007-01-01 01:58 pm UTC (link)
	I love thewaahmbulance. And dieinahole needs tp. Like, now. (Reply to this)(Thread)

cheezdanish, 2007-01-01 06:23 pm UTC

	waterfront 2007-01-01 03:48 pm UTC (link)
	They just won't stop talking! (Reply to this)

	seiberwing 2007-01-01 04:53 pm UTC (link)
	I know (well, e-know) some of these people. My respect for master_simon just went up a bit. And there is minor pwn in this thread. (Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-01-01 05:33 pm UTC

seiberwing, 2007-01-01 05:51 pm UTC

sashenka, 2007-01-01 05:51 pm UTC

oh_envy, 2007-01-01 05:54 pm UTC

sashenka, 2007-01-01 06:18 pm UTC

tez, 2007-01-01 08:55 pm UTC

waterfront, 2007-01-01 06:14 pm UTC

freezer, 2007-01-02 03:45 pm UTC

	bubosquared 2007-01-01 05:34 pm UTC (link)
	So that is your answer. "Man, what is the deal with ______?!" THE INTERNET. THAT IS WHAT IS THE DEAL. I want that last bit on a T-shirt so badly I can taste it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

d00mpixie, 2007-01-02 08:17 am UTC

	cheezdanish 2007-01-01 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	Man, I'm glad I didn't post this on Fandom-Wank last night after all, then. (Reply to this)

	sarajayechan 2007-01-01 06:54 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. #3 is special, in the way you just wanna hit the OP upside the head with a tire iron. (Reply to this)

shinga
2007-01-01 08:26 pm UTC (link)

Okay, so... I only was able to skim through part of that, cause... TOO damn much.

But when will people understand that penetrated =/= submissive? 'Cause uh... at the risk of TMI, I'm female and have slept with men. And I recall a number of times where I was the dominant one. Without a strap-on or anything close to that. And last I checked, I still have a vagina that functions like a normal vagina during sex.

Gyah. People. :P

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sabinelagrande, 2007-01-01 10:45 pm UTC

Amen. - wolfie_thu, 2007-01-02 12:43 am UTC

	*hums this is the wank that never ends* iwanttobeasleep 2007-01-01 08:50 pm UTC (link)
	trolliemctroll brings us the fifth reaction post. Damn. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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hallidae, 2007-01-01 08:54 pm UTC

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shinga, 2007-01-01 09:01 pm UTC

	shinga 2007-01-01 08:55 pm UTC (link)
	I laughed and I'm not afraid to admit it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

waterfront, 2007-01-02 04:17 am UTC

shinga, 2007-01-02 09:26 am UTC

onaga, 2007-01-02 06:29 am UTC

	sabinelagrande 2007-01-01 10:44 pm UTC (link)
	Best. Troll. Ever. (Reply to this)

hyaenid
2007-01-02 01:22 am UTC (link)

Gay men are simply more in touch with themselves, their feelings, etc, making them seem more feminine due to the strictures and 'perameters' that define femininity.

Huh. Well, that's an interesting and bizarre subset of, "so, who's the girl?"

So... my question is, if two guys kissing is kind of like two girls kissing, is two girls kissing kind of like two guys kissing? Then why can't two guys kissing just be two guys kissing and oh god I'm so confused.

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seiberwing, 2007-01-02 03:56 am UTC

rhosyn_du, 2007-01-02 09:44 pm UTC

benighted, 2007-01-03 09:35 am UTC

	penguinfaery 2007-01-02 02:56 am UTC (link)
	The BEST yaoi/slash/whatever involves two boys interacting with the intent of one day ending up between the sheets in some context rp's I have EVER done have been with straight males (I've never to my knowledge done realtionship oriented rp's with gay males) (Reply to this)

	michmatch 2007-01-02 08:26 am UTC (link)
	You know, no matter how many times I see it I just don't understand this mindset right here: Hey! You are different! I don't know anything about different people, and demand you explain everything there is to know about being different to me RIGHT NOW! Because clearly you represent all different people everywhere. Simply because you are different, after all. (Reply to this)

	redwarrior 2007-01-07 01:29 am UTC (link)
	Dude, penetrated=/=submissive. And yes, I DO know of straight guys that have played gay/bisexual male characters. And written/drawn yaoi. And have had no problems with it since they were the "RAH FEMINISM" types of dudes. And this whole thing makes me feel bad to be a gay FtM. Delicate little uke flower I ain't. -__- (Reply to this)

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