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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-01-05 00:11:00


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This is one of the not-fun wanks.
I'm going to quote from Comcast's newspage to give a summary of what's going on here, in an attempt to stay impartial.


6 hours ago

CHICAGO - In a case fraught with ethical questions, the parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and more portable size.

The bedridden 9-year-old girl had her uterus and breast tissue removed at a Seattle hospital and received large doses of hormones to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.

The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet, with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring for her at home.

University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems is to put them into permanent childhood."

Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as they grow up.

"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr. Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."

The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not identify themselves on their blog, either.

Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy, which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.

Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."

She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.

An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment" ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents say it has succeeded so far.

She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her parents' blog.

"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips, touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.

Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.


Of course there's arguements from all sides.

Who exactly is this hurting? The parents have made a lot of good points. How on earth will Ashley cope with having the body of a grown woman, when her mind has been left far behind? Three months old is a mindset none of us can remember and therefore really understand.

As has been said earlier, what point is there of sitting in judgement of people who are living a life we've never tried? Maintaining the status quo with Ashley's physical state will surely help her.

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For these parents to shamelessly mutilate their daughter in order to make her care less challenging is barbaric and shocking. In their utilitarian singlemindedness, they have stripped Ashley of her very human identity and rendered her a grisly, sad abomination. All responsible for allowing this ghastly act should be punished severely.
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I�m with cannibalcritic on this one - such a severely brain-damaged girl should have been killed humanely as soon as the permanence of her condition was made clear. Surely what makes us human is our consciousness, that is, our self-awareness (beyond that of an animal-like ability to sense pain and bodily functions)? Denied this humanity, this poor girl is now, due to medical advances, having her humanity diminished still further. I understand the practical implications for this, but when a human being is so disabled as for it to be beneficial for them to remain undeveloped, to have their physical humanity denied them, in my opinion the kindest operation for him/her would be a euthanistic one.

If anyone finds a related incident, I'll stick it up here too.




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[info]smo
2007-01-05 06:32 am UTC (link)
...

I'm going to go look at funny cat macros now.

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(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2007-01-05 06:53 pm UTC
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[info]emiweebee
2007-01-05 06:32 am UTC (link)
ROCKS FALL, EVERYONE DIES!

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-01-05 06:36 am UTC (link)
The surgery took place at Children's Hospital in Seattle, so of course there's attempted wank in [info]seattle .

I'm going to go find me a nice comfy McShep mpreg to read, myself.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-05 06:38 am UTC
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[info]ichigatsu
2007-01-05 06:37 am UTC (link)
:(

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[info]entrenous88
2007-01-05 06:38 am UTC (link)
...

That's horrible.

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[info]shinga
2007-01-05 06:41 am UTC (link)
Well now, that's the most depressing thing I've read all day.

Now I need kittens.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-01-05 06:44 am UTC
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[info]hallidae
2007-01-05 06:45 am UTC (link)
On one hand, yes, it would be harder to take care of her had she become fully grown. On the other, this makes me sick to my stomach. I'm on the side of the people saying the parents should have just sucked it up and handled the changes, instead of making their already genetically screwed up daughter even more so just to make her care more convenient for them.

...

Fuck it. I can't stick around on this one, or I'm just gonna get more upset and wanky. ::goes off to sketch::

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(no subject) - [info]stella_polaris, 2007-01-06 06:13 am UTC

[info]visp
2007-01-05 06:46 am UTC (link)
For these parents to shamelessly mutilate their daughter in order to make her care less challenging is barbaric and shocking.

Spoken like someone who probably has never been a main care provider for a young child ever, much less a mentally challenged one.

In their utilitarian singlemindedness, they have stripped Ashley of her very human identity and rendered her a grisly, sad abomination.

Because as someone with the mind of an infant, she had such an identity, and letting her grow to the point that her parents wouldn't be able to care for her would make her less of an abomination.

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(no subject) - [info]caito, 2007-01-05 06:48 am UTC
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[info]vigilanterodent
2007-01-05 06:54 am UTC (link)
I hate to be Mary McSensitive, but I don't suppose you'd mind putting this behind a cut-tag? It's . . . something I would prefer not to feel drawn to read every time I look at my friendslist.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-05 06:55 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-01-05 06:57 am UTC

[info]soupspooks
2007-01-05 06:58 am UTC (link)
I'm having one of those shock-and-horror moments. I'm going to go reread my Phoenix Wright manga pr0n.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2007-01-05 07:03 am UTC (link)
Wow. That sucks for everyone.

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[info]mistal
2007-01-05 07:05 am UTC (link)
That's, hum, special...

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[info]coffeebun
2007-01-05 07:05 am UTC (link)
*has an autistic younger brother who is 19 and is 5'7"*

Nothing I'll say here will not end up in splooge, so... uhm. :|

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(no subject) - [info]derumi, 2007-01-05 07:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cinnamonical, 2007-01-07 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-01-05 07:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2007-01-05 10:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-01-05 11:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2007-01-05 01:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-01-05 01:43 pm UTC
kittens for you - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2007-01-05 04:21 pm UTC
Re: kittens for you - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2007-01-05 08:23 pm UTC
Re: kittens for you - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-01-06 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]absurdwords, 2007-01-05 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]damien, 2007-01-06 02:17 am UTC
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[info]jenny_atrox
2007-01-05 07:13 am UTC (link)
Hey look Cute Overload updateD OH GOD I NEED KITTENS.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-01-05 07:18 am UTC
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ravenousbunny
2007-01-05 07:29 am UTC (link)
I'm having trouble responding to this one. Honestly, the parents issues aren't even bothering me right now. I think I've said before I have a sister who's mentally and physically disabled, but I'm sure no one remembers.

"I�m with cannibalcritic on this one - such a severely brain-damaged girl should have been killed humanely as soon as the permanence of her condition was made clear...."

This comment has me fucking near tears. I should back away. This just... I'm fucking pissed off right now. I would love to be able to punch this ass in the face. Maybe let them have a little baby boy or girl who has problems. See how eager they are to say, "Go ahead an kill 'em doc."

I can't even make a coherent comment.

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-01-05 07:59 am UTC
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(no subject) - ravenousbunny, 2007-01-08 01:13 am UTC

[info]shallow_kid
2007-01-05 07:36 am UTC (link)
One the one hand, it makes me sort of ill to think about doing that to someone for "convenience". On the other, I've got to hand it to the parents for sticking it out this long. My son is 5 months and if he was stuck at this stage, but growing steadily bigger, year after year after year ... oh man. I long for the days when I could eat, pee, bathe, do laundry, clean the house, leave the house or read a fucking book without some huge production involved. If I had to deal with this FOREVER, I'm pretty sure I'd kill myself.

In conclusion, no-win situation here.

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(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2007-01-05 02:25 pm UTC
I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well...
[info]t_boy
2007-01-05 08:03 am UTC (link)
"Swallow and your mother dies, spit it out and your father dies."

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Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]plazmah, 2007-01-05 04:06 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]semirecluse, 2007-01-05 06:17 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]nicolae, 2007-01-05 07:51 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - bigi, 2007-01-05 08:16 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - dracothelizard, 2007-01-05 10:02 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]vigilanterodent, 2007-01-05 10:36 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]puipui, 2007-01-05 11:15 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]jerel, 2007-01-05 11:17 pm UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]t_boy, 2007-01-06 02:10 am UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]visp, 2007-01-06 04:08 am UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]amberwaves, 2007-01-06 06:55 am UTC
Re: I remember a Malay saying that sums this up pretty well... - [info]ladyvoldything, 2007-01-07 04:44 am UTC

[info]scarah2
2007-01-05 08:05 am UTC (link)
OK I'm not even going to comment on the rest of it, but, "PILLOW ANGELS????"

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'Pillow Angel' - [info]stinksap, 2007-01-05 12:07 pm UTC
Re: 'Pillow Angel' - [info]gunshou, 2007-01-05 10:10 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sesana, 2007-01-06 03:51 am UTC

[info]mindset
2007-01-05 08:06 am UTC (link)
...

OK.

I'm going to be blunt here, and I'm normally not. But.

What the hell?! Whyyyyyyy do you see a post like this and think "ooh, there must be wank, let me post it to OTF!" What sort of result do you think you're going to get? There's no point-and-mock, there's no humor at *all*, there's just pain and suffering and pain. And it isn't wank! It's a heavy, controversial topic, but believe me, you're not going to get pretentious, self-righteous crap coming out of anyone but professional idiots or heartless trolls.

And all you're going to get *here* is completely serious discussions lacking any humor at all, and for a good reason. Tons of oversharing, thoughts on yaoi really fucking serious issues beyond limits, and of course, lots of OMGWTFNO. Oh, maybe, if you're lucky, someone who says the wrong thing and gets dogpiled on. Woo-fucking-hoo.

So. Did you honestly have a point? Do you, as the saying goes, understand the purpose of this community?

God.

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[info]moonjaguar
2007-01-05 08:45 am UTC (link)
I'm going to throw up now.

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[info]kahrohseh
2007-01-05 09:43 am UTC (link)
I first came across this article in the paper while waiting for an ultrasound (not for the normal reason one associates with ultrasounds). There was a sort of bottom-of-the-gut discomfort that came up that's taken me two days to put a name to: it's the same feeling I got when I thought bonsai kittens were real.

That's really all I've got for this.

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[info]michmatch
2007-01-05 10:07 am UTC (link)
AHA! So that's what my friend was on about earlier today. However, she threw it at me as if stunting girls' growth was some new fashion trend. Which of course led me to wonder aloud, "isn't that what gymnastics is for?"

She called me an insensitive bitch, and now I know why!

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(no subject) - [info]shadowkitty, 2007-01-05 02:17 pm UTC
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[info]aerobot
2007-01-05 10:19 am UTC (link)
Ugh ... damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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[info]eilan
2007-01-05 10:36 am UTC (link)
I saw this on another community first and there were people who are caregivers for mentally disabled girls there who said that for some of the disabled girls, the onset of menstruation causes them to go into hysterics and so on. They just cannot deal with that, especially if it's painful. You cannot explain to them that it will go away, but come back the next month.

Ergh, that was probably a pointless comment. Sorry.

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2007-01-05 06:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-05 06:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2007-01-05 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-05 06:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2007-01-05 06:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-05 06:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-05 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2007-01-05 07:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-05 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]slwatson, 2007-01-05 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jyuu, 2007-01-05 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-05 09:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jyuu, 2007-01-05 10:50 pm UTC
... - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-06 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2007-01-05 04:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]indis_earfalas, 2007-01-05 04:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2007-01-05 05:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-01-05 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kahteh, 2007-01-06 01:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-01-06 03:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]grand_sealink, 2007-01-05 07:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]black_spot, 2007-01-05 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marciamarcia, 2007-01-06 12:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2007-01-06 04:21 am UTC

[info]melancthe
2007-01-05 12:04 pm UTC (link)
Just reading this made me want to cry. :(

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