Remember when we were talking about vaginas?

This whole thing is probably not safe for work.

Over at Metafilter, a post about a doctor getting away with performing Female Genital Mutilations gets derailed by some of the guys coming in wanting to talk about their circumcisions and how traumatizing the practice is. There's complaining in thread about this, and we all troop over to Metatalk to bitch at length about everyone's penis.

Then the user spacediver comes in and... Oh hell, I'll just give you a sample of his comments.

"Quite simply, we do not accord even close to the same respect to male sexual anatomy, as we do to female sexual anatomy." That's right. It's all about the vaginas!

"In fact, i'd say that male genital cutting is more relevant to this case than is female genital cutting, since the medical establishment plays a much bigger role in the former." Okay, let's think about this. Male circumcision is more relevant to a case about female genital mutilation how?

"...many women who are circumcised feel exactly the same way about their bodies. They don't think they're missing anything..." It's like those old coffee commercials. Today we've replaced her vagina with Folger's Crystals. Let's see if she can tell the difference.

The regulars respond in their usual way.

"I've also heard that intact males can actually hear the choruses of Angels singing in Heaven and that their stools are gigantic and have no more odor than a hot biscuit." - Divine_Wino

"[T]hey can also fly to Spain using their foreskins as hot air balloons and only the flatulence of the Gods to stay aloft." - jonmc

Indeed.

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mastervex
2007-01-10 07:42 am UTC (link)

Because you personally think no male is capable of proper hygiene, all male babies need to have their genitals altered. And adult males who actually have problems with their foreskin choosing to have it removed, and children who are born with problems with it and have surgery to fix it? That's exactly the same as doing it just in case to all babies without letting them grow up and decide whether they want bits of their body cut off, when there's no actual medical or logical reason whatsoever for it to be standard, and the practice only became common here in the first place for lovely reasons like wanting to prevent masturbation, and then later because daddy thinks his kid's penis needs to look just like his.

Do you believe all parts of people's bodies that aren't one hundred percent necessary to live/function ought to be cut off at birth, just in case the baby might grow up to be a slob or might possibly develop some kind of health problem sometime in their lives?

Anyone who thinks it compares to female circumcision is a moron, and men who want to derail every discussion of the horrors of female circumcision into wah wah what about my penis need to shut the fuck up, but seriously. "Men can't wash themselves!" and "Some men could possibly have problems with their foreskin someday!" are the goddamn stupidest lines of reasoning for why there's absolutely nothing wrong with altering babies' genitals just because people want to do it.

And knock off that fucking e. e. cummings shit because I'm sick of seeing it. You've shown you know where the shift key is, so use it.

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hobbitsexual
2007-01-10 08:56 am UTC (link)

re-read, genius:

"highly and strongly support all men getting circumcisions"

key word here being MEN.

your comments are ridiculous; nowhere do i suggest that 'all' body parts that aren't 100% necessary need to be removed - i keep it to foreskins and i specify MEN. you're derailing the subject now.

why i do that is because of the HUGE NUMBER of men i've encountered who have problematic foreskins or abominably poor hygiene and who never consider that circumcision is a reasonable option.

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	slwatson 2007-01-10 10:35 pm UTC (link)
	There is a Shift key. It is just under the Caps Lock key on the left side and just under the Enter key on the right. Use it, please. You're really kinda making yourself look stupid. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	hobbitsexual 2007-01-10 10:38 pm UTC (link)
	pats ok then! whatever makes you feel superior, sweetie. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	renata_hpjc 2007-01-10 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	Do you believe all parts of people's bodies that aren't one hundred percent necessary to live/function ought to be cut off at birth, just in case the baby might grow up to be a slob or might possibly develop some kind of health problem sometime in their lives? Appendectomies for all! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	windex_junkie 2007-01-15 11:20 am UTC (link)
	I love you so god damned much right now that words fail me. But I STILL REMEMBER WHERE THE SHIFT KEY IS. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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