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napalmnacey
2007-01-11 06:43 am UTC (link)

I'm only going to give my opinion on this once cause the whole subject makes me wretch.

Domesticated animals are bred to be submissive to us. So that 'consent' you think they're giving can't be trusted to be consent at all. They're raised to let us do whatever we want to them. As their caretakers, it's our responsibility to treat them well.

I think the problem is that people are anthropomorphising these creatures and not understanding how they view relationships with other living creatures.

Bestiality/zoophilia is abuse, and there's no other word for it.

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serai
2007-01-11 08:17 am UTC (link)

Well, physical mutilation is abuse, yet we do that to animals constantly. Tying up babies and forcing them to live on thin gruel until they're soft enough to eat is abuse, yet there's a whole industry that produces and sells veal.

We constantly do horrible and stomach-turning things to animals. It seems to me that there's only some things that are OMGWRONG because they can't consent, and they're the things that only a few people would want to do. The ugly shit the majority of us approve of is accepted as perfectly ok.

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	napalmnacey 2007-01-11 08:21 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, it's a double standard. Some live with it, some don't. If I had the constitution to be a vegan, I wouldn't eat meat or animal products ever again. But I don't, so shrugs. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	serai 2007-01-11 09:09 am UTC (link)
	Oy, indeed. I actually was a vegan for a while, and enjoyed it. But that was in a town that made it easy to do. Here in L.A. it's much more difficult, and yadayadayada. But there's just so much wrong with modern life, there's no way to counteract it all. sigh (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	napalmnacey 2007-01-11 09:15 am UTC (link)
	Too true, too true. When it gets too much for me, I go to cuteoverload.com and zen. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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