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itsirtou ([info]itsirtou) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-01-10 17:28:00


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Over at the libertarianism community on ElJay, [info]lefthandedninja asks, "Do you think possessing child pornography should be a crime?"  in reaction to this article.  (Apparently, instead of turning in his final exam, some dumbass turned in a CD full of child porn.)

Fantastic.

[info]kadeshaderow gets things started off the right way by asking, "Are you fucking retarded?" and then continues to splooge all over the place.  (Now with bolding and underlining action!) 

The wank then moves on to whether or not the age of consent is arbitrary, and whether that even pertains to the subject at hand since the CD turned in contained pictures of very young children.

[info]vox_soli feels the need to tl;dr to the max about how she is an anarchist and actually SAYS, "I more or less think that it's okay as long as the child in question has a sufficiently mature understanding of the whole idea of sexuality to consent and there isn't any question of coercion or undue influence from an authority figure."   She, [info]cyclotron, and [info]ragnarok20 go on to have a nice healthy debate over whether or not you can define a law if you don't actually believe in laws.

But!  [info]ragnarok20 simply cannot take this lying down!  Instead of replying on the first post, he has to make a whole new post about how big of an idiot [info]kadeshaderow is.

Thankfully, this post looks semi splooge-free at the moment, but the second the usual suspects show up, it'll explode, mark my words. 



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[info]gal_montag
2007-01-11 01:07 am UTC (link)
Do you think possessing child pornography should be a crime?

If not, why?

If so, how do you reconcile that with your libertarian beliefs?


WTF? Do Libertarians seriously believe that it shouldn't be criminal to have (and , thus, create a demand for) child pornography? I just don't see how there's anything irrational about failing to see how allowing people to posess child pornography is a live and let live kind of situation.

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[info]itsirtou
2007-01-11 01:10 am UTC (link)
Only the insane LJ Libertarians think that, and thankfully there IS wank over it -- I would have been worried if it were all "Sure possess child porn LOL".

We're not all this stupid. Despite the fact that kadeshaderow was wanking, I agreed with most of what he said.

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[info]shaggydogstail
2007-01-11 03:40 am UTC (link)
I had a lot of sympathy for kadeshaderow - I was wanking pretty damn hard in my own head as I read the whole thing.

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[info]itsirtou
2007-01-11 03:43 am UTC (link)
I just think that if he hadn't flown off the deep end at some of the idiots over there, he would have come off a lot better.

Although I can see how it's really easy to get mad at some of those people in that comm. I often find myself sitting on my hands to keep from replying to something.

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[info]shaggydogstail
2007-01-11 03:51 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it's always more productive to keep a cool head about things. Sometimes it's just easier said than done. *is grateful for anti-trolling rules as would be tempted to wank like a bandit otherwise*

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[info]the_mouse
2007-01-12 07:20 am UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure I've asked you this before, but what comic is that from again? I've seen your icon dozens of times now, and each time I stop to read it and snicker before carrying on with whatever else I'm suposed to be doing. :D It brings lulz to my heart.

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[info]april_hurst
2007-01-11 04:10 am UTC (link)
I seriously doubt very many do. I agree that the US laws are too strict regarding the gray-area - it makes no sense, for example, that possessing photographs of a nude 17-year-old would be a crime, but in my state, having sex with him/her is perfectly legal. That's simply stupid. But there's also a major difference between children and older teens. Very few would argue that real pornography with a real pre-pubescent child should be legal.

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[info]mmanurere
2007-01-11 07:16 am UTC (link)
There are some extreme Libertarian Party types who think that the only function of government should be protection of private property...so yeah, there are some who think anything else is a "violation of Libertarian beliefs".

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[info]nicolae
2007-01-11 09:01 am UTC (link)
Sadly, I go to school with one of them.

He's also a traditionalist Catholic. And an Objectivist.

He asked me on a date.

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[info]mmanurere
2007-01-11 09:13 am UTC (link)
He's also a traditionalist Catholic. And an Objectivist.

He asked me on a date.


Did you ask him to prove how going on a date with him would be in your best financial and ideological interests, and then bill him for your time?

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[info]nicolae
2007-01-11 09:16 am UTC (link)
I looked at him for a long time and said something like, "Sweetheart, you know Mary, right? The girl I'm always with? I already have a date." And he was all, :O, so then I said, "And besides -- my mother always told me not to sleep with anyone pro-life."

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[info]mmanurere
2007-01-11 09:44 am UTC (link)
Heh. Making heads explode is fun, isn't it?

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[info]aerobot
2007-01-11 11:03 am UTC (link)
Best. Putdown. Ever.

I can just imagine the look on his face.

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[info]notjo
2007-01-11 10:21 pm UTC (link)
"And besides - my mother always told me not to sleep with anyone pro-life."

I... I think I love you. Madly. Truly. With the passion of a thousand suns. I love you just as much as I once loved the last person who said something witty on the intarweb, but I'm over them now. You have my heart in your hand.

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[info]seeshellirun
2007-01-12 05:58 pm UTC (link)
Well, I hope you said yes. He sounds like a catch.

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