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itsirtou ([info]itsirtou) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-01-10 17:28:00


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Over at the libertarianism community on ElJay, [info]lefthandedninja asks, "Do you think possessing child pornography should be a crime?"  in reaction to this article.  (Apparently, instead of turning in his final exam, some dumbass turned in a CD full of child porn.)

Fantastic.

[info]kadeshaderow gets things started off the right way by asking, "Are you fucking retarded?" and then continues to splooge all over the place.  (Now with bolding and underlining action!) 

The wank then moves on to whether or not the age of consent is arbitrary, and whether that even pertains to the subject at hand since the CD turned in contained pictures of very young children.

[info]vox_soli feels the need to tl;dr to the max about how she is an anarchist and actually SAYS, "I more or less think that it's okay as long as the child in question has a sufficiently mature understanding of the whole idea of sexuality to consent and there isn't any question of coercion or undue influence from an authority figure."   She, [info]cyclotron, and [info]ragnarok20 go on to have a nice healthy debate over whether or not you can define a law if you don't actually believe in laws.

But!  [info]ragnarok20 simply cannot take this lying down!  Instead of replying on the first post, he has to make a whole new post about how big of an idiot [info]kadeshaderow is.

Thankfully, this post looks semi splooge-free at the moment, but the second the usual suspects show up, it'll explode, mark my words. 



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[info]damnedfallacy
2007-01-11 06:04 am UTC (link)
A lot of states have introduced an age difference provision for consensual sex among post 14 year olds (i.e. consensual sex and two years or less in age difference =/= statutory rape).

Anyway, how the hell can a 15 year old who is a month shy of 16 having consensual sex with a just barely 17 year old boyfriend compare to any kind of rape, let alone that of a young child?

~wipes up~

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iwanttobeasleep
2007-01-11 06:59 am UTC (link)
Anyway, how the hell can a 15 year old who is a month shy of 16 having consensual sex with a just barely 17 year old boyfriend compare to any kind of rape, let alone that of a young child?

Yeah, but with that logic, why not two months from 16? And then by that, why not three? I mean, if a month doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, then there's no reason you can't just keep subtracting it. Which is why we have to keep the laws arbitrarily set, because that's the only way that we can draw a line. From there, we just have to hope for DA's that will plea bargain the kids out if they can't wait a month.

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[info]mmanurere
2007-01-11 07:30 am UTC (link)
This is why I can see the logic behind age-difference laws. "If it's consensual (of course) and if the two partners are within 2 years of age, it's OK." Of course, "2 years" is another kind of arbitrary...but it like you say, arbitrary but clear and reasonable is what we're aiming for here.

(Of course, if "reasonable" were something which everyone could agree on, we wouldn't have wank...)

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[info]damnedfallacy
2007-01-11 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, sorry. I wasn't clear. I firmly believe in a "this far, no further" age limit. Over that age limit, the statute should allow for consensual sex between people, neither of whom is in a position of authority over the other, within a two year age difference.

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