TQC gender-wank!
*stolen from a mousie on

thequestionclub if it's ok to let her son wear a skirt to school. Most of the answers are *gasp!* reasonable, but there are always a few wankers in the bunch.

redlightlove starts off the party by proclaiming boys only wear skirts if they're fairies. People of course call him on this, and he backpedals with the classic "I was doing it for the LULZ."

redlightlove then makes it to

stupid_free (which stays amazingly free of wank).

Next up, we have

renewedme, proclaiming that the kid needs to go to therapy to find the "root" of his problem. Anyone else having "But I'm a Cheerleader" flashbacks? Continuing on this theme, she states that dressing as the opposite sex could come from "underlying problems" and that she sees "nothing wrong with our society's attitudes toward gender at all." There is another round of "Bitch, plz" from those assembled. There's also a discussion on whether ten year-olds understand sexuality and gender identity, culminating in accusations of repression.

Finally,

supernovacaine gets in on the action, wondering why transsexuals can't just wear goddamn pants like all the other women in the world.

Personally, I'm just in favor of clothing that keeps the naughty bits covered. At least on most people. Jeri Ryan is allowed to wear as little clothing as she likes.

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I assume these thoughts on yaoi are fine,

lottelita
2007-01-18 06:27 am UTC (link)

since everyone else is taking the time to say what an idiotic twat they think

pester is?

I don't think she's stupid or mean. She explains the moral code that she follows, and I have yet to see her insult or belittle anyone who does not follow that moral code. I have a lot of admiration for people who truly believe that they should submit to the will of their creator, no matter how unpleasant such submission may be.

/unfunny

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Re: I assume these thoughts on yaoi are fine,

darthmaligna
2007-01-18 07:21 am UTC (link)

I have a lot of admiration for people who truly believe that they should submit to the will of their creator, no matter how unpleasant such submission may be.

...Maybe it's just the Catholic-turned-atheist in me, but I just can't agree. It's nice that people have that much self-discipline, but I really don't understand how someone can look at a rule like "it is immoral for women to wear pants because it's immoral for women to wear pants" and not wonder why a supposedly omniscient being would come up with a law that ridiculous.

Of course, people can believe whatever they want, but the grey area for me is that they enforce these views on their children, and while frequently it's harmless and the kids will get over it, sometimes it can be extremely mentally damaging. Teaching a child racism, on the one hand, while completely and utterly vile, is probably not going to fuck a child up on a clinical level. Sending a child to anti-gay camp to get reprogrammed should be criminal, however. Of course, I haven't done enough thinking and research into this to draw any sort of theoretical line. And I know that the argument that forcing a child to conform to the wrong gender identity qualifies as abuse is a nigh on impossible sell, considering most Americans believe in transgendered people even less than they believe in bisexual ones.

And I've utterly forgotten where I was going with this. I think the point is that

pester is a vile twat no matter how devout she is.

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	Re: I assume these thoughts on yaoi are fine, lottelita 2007-01-18 07:28 am UTC (link)
	Where have you seen her being vile? I've yet to see her say a mean thing to anyone, or even advocate a mean action. Of course, I'm not exactly following her around the internet. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: I assume these thoughts on yaoi are fine, rosehiptea 2007-01-18 08:29 am UTC (link)
	I figured pointing out that I thought pester's comment was obnoxious and intolerant was part of the pointing and laughing intrinsically involved here. If someone uses their religion as a reason to be intolerant and/or homophobic I think it's as subject to pointing and laughing as anything else. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: I assume these thoughts on yaoi are fine, tofuknight 2007-01-18 10:29 pm UTC (link)
	You don't think it's insulting to say that ALL women should do this or that? That a man (biological male) who wears skirts is not really a man (biological male) isn't insulting? Because I do. P.S. Point and mock? (Reply to this)(Parent)

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