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Jenn ([info]wankaholic) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-02-04 00:06:00
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Just be glad I didn't go with the wanking [info]lesbians.
Can you guess what community is wanking again? Yup, it's [info]stupid_free! To explain this wank I shall do an interpretive dance paraphrase! Choice bits:

"hay guyz atheists have a persecution complex isn't that stupid???"

"Atheists get the cold shoulder because they're amoral. Atheists are amoral! Amoral, I tell YOU!"

"Morals don't come from religion. Haven't you heard of secular humanism? Why no, you haven't! D:"

"Dude, your moral compass shouldn't come from the big guy in the sky."

"All morals come from religion, dammit!"

"I feel like I'm talking to a Martian! D:"

So if you're an atheist, you're also a hedonist. Nice to know. :D
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[info]judyhazeleyes
2007-02-04 06:12 pm UTC (link)
"Just be glad I didn't go with the wanking lesbians."

Glad? D:

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[info]wankaholic
2007-02-04 07:33 pm UTC (link)
Since it was a terribly unfunny wank about how "bio-born" lesbians (i.e. not transgendered) are being oppressed by the ones that are transgendered, and therefore need their own community on LJ where the evil transpeople can't get at them. Oh, and need to be complete asshats toward any transpeople that go, "Umm, about that now . . ."

It was sad. D:

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-02-04 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2007-02-04 09:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-02-05 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-02-05 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]daylightsparks, 2007-02-05 02:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2007-02-05 02:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]daylightsparks, 2007-02-05 02:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2007-02-05 03:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-02-05 02:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2007-02-05 03:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-02-05 04:24 am UTC

[info]zyna_kat
2007-02-04 06:13 pm UTC (link)
PSA:

It's spelled atheist.

A - T - H - E - I - S - T

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[info]tigerlily
2007-02-04 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Man, every time I had hedonism explained in school it was done with this example:

2 men walk past a bar and tell themselves not to go in.
The first is a past drinker who always got ill.
The second a Christian who believes God will punish him.

Both are hedonists and for the same reason. Seek pleasure and avoid pain.

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[info]ilpalazzo
2007-02-04 08:11 pm UTC (link)
That's a good example, but I always figured that the 'seeking pleasure' was kind of the defining characteristic of a hedonist and that example is all about the standard avoidance of suffering that almost everybody does.

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[info]xero_sky
2007-02-04 09:25 pm UTC (link)
*blinks*

But aren't those both just avoiding pain?

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(no subject) - [info]tigerlily, 2007-02-04 11:20 pm UTC

[info]black_spot
2007-02-04 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Poor social_retard. I loved the way he apologised for not been able to express what he wanted to say. He almost sounded wistful when he related that he had the same problem in real life. Please do not ask me to find the links; my brain lost enough cells reading every comment earlier.

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[info]onaga
2007-02-04 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Dammit, social_retard made me get a throbbing vein in my forehead at the sight of Calvin and Hobbes. That's not fair. D:

(Also, I don't know what this dude would do if he knew that my family, my parents, and my grandparents on one side are/were all atheists. He seems to think it's a recent social trend or something.)

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True Story Time!
[info]felinephoenix
2007-02-04 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Heh. The first time I met my best friend (then a Jehovah's Witness), she tried to convince me I was an amoral heathen because I'm athiest. We soon become fast friends.

...and she's now converted to Paganism.

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-04 11:15 pm UTC (link)
How...do you ever get the feeling that someone, by their very existance, makes the entire human race lose a couple of collective IQ points?

Many atheists exist without committing random acts of immorality ---> therefore, it is possible to be both moral, and atheist.

I can see a discussion over whether the word amoral can apply, if morality is a purely religious concept (and the rest of us would then have ethics) but that all atheists are evil? When there are a lot of not-evil atheists wandering about? *Brain splodey*

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*gets out the industrial strength Earth Logic*
[info]luthe
2007-02-05 12:16 am UTC (link)
If religion leads to morals, then why are *some* (only a small some) priests pedophiles?

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Re: *gets out the industrial strength Earth Logic*
[info]frequentmouse
2007-02-05 01:21 am UTC (link)
I find the existence of born-again used car salesmen and real estate developers even more convincing.

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Re: *gets out the industrial strength Earth Logic*
[info]dragonfangirl
2007-02-05 02:56 am UTC (link)
Obviously they are not real believing priests, they are merely athiests which have infiltrated the church and deviously manipulated their ill-won position for their own gain. They must be, because they can't be religious and immoral at the same time! It's just not possible!

On a less snarky but more cynical note, this is exactly why people in these positions can get away with so much of what they do for so long -- because people in the community will simply refuse to believe that it's possible, and deny any and all evidence to the contrary, especially evidence so unreliable as the testimony of non-authority-figure children!

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Re: *gets out the industrial strength Earth Logic*
[info]onaga
2007-02-05 03:09 am UTC (link)
And if religion leads to morals, how do tragedies like this one happen?

I may be an amoral hedonist, but at least I've never beaten and abused a child and let him die from pneumonia.

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[info]kijikun
2007-02-05 01:47 am UTC (link)
What doesn't anyone ever wank about the deists? We want love wank too.

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[info]exdee
2007-02-05 02:37 am UTC (link)
Didn't you hear? There aren't any deists anymore, now that we have evolution figured out :P

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2007-02-05 05:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2007-02-05 06:05 am UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2007-02-06 05:32 am UTC (link)
*waves little Deist flag*

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[info]doc_lydgate
2007-02-05 02:15 am UTC (link)
I love how arguments about atheism vs. religion invariably lead to a discussion of the merits of suicide for the opposition.

Also, "cumpass." A++.

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[info]damien
2007-02-05 02:53 am UTC (link)
What, hedonism doesn't count as a religion? Worship of the pleasure principle and all that. XD

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-02-05 02:58 am UTC (link)
Don't you know? It's not worship/religion unless there's a Sky Daddy involved. Everything else is just shamanism and animism or, if feeling charitable, 'philosophy.'

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(no subject) - [info]damien, 2007-02-05 03:01 am UTC

[info]thexphial
2007-02-05 06:00 am UTC (link)
Argh, someone trolled his journal. Fuckwits.

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meowmeowbutt wins the internet
[info]doc_lydgate
2007-02-05 06:11 am UTC (link)
[info]meowmeowbutt: You can be spiritual without being religious.

[info]_social_retard_: Yeah but then your not an athiest are you?

[info]meowmeowbutt: Spirituality - a sense of connection to the universe
Religion - an organized system of worship that gives a framework to the relationship we have with the universe and with a higher power (diety/ies)
Atheism is the disbelief in the existence of any deities.
You can have both, and you can have one or the other.

[info]_social_retard_: Your saying you can be spirtual and athistic at the same time? strictly speaking yuo are correct. But generaly speaking athiest disbeleave anything supernatural.

[info]meowmeowbutt: The universe is supernatural? oh.

:D I just had to share.

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Re: meowmeowbutt wins the internet - [info]panthea, 2007-02-06 04:12 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2007-02-05 06:28 am UTC (link)
So...

Does anyone know where us agnostics come into the scheme of things? O_o

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(no subject) - [info]some_dude, 2007-02-05 06:34 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rachel_pi, 2007-02-05 06:47 pm UTC
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[info]seeshellirun
2007-02-05 10:42 pm UTC (link)
"So if you're an atheist, you're also a hedonist. Nice to know.

You didn't know this? It's in Matthew somewhere.

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[info]aerobot
2007-02-06 01:33 pm UTC (link)
FUCKING DAMMIT, LJ, I don't know what you did that made it impossible to load long threads, but FIX IT. I am tired of my computer freezing whenever I try to READ SOMETHING OVER 40 COMMENTS LONG.

Someone please tell me that I'm not the only one with this problem.

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(no subject) - [info]rosina_alcona, 2007-03-02 03:45 pm UTC
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