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kalicephirot
2007-02-18 01:20 am UTC (link)

You know? I really try not to think too-much of people in the internet I don't know/talk to, since, you know. I don't know them/can't know how it was and all. So I'm trying to give this dude with the my-sweetheart-was-13-years-old-when-I-was-24 kid the benefit of doubt. Their relationship could've been the most platonic of relationships ever and all, and, really; if it WAS creepy, I want to believe that the girl's family would've done something (yes, sometimes I have too much faith in humanity, why do you ask?)

That said, I'm trying to think of my 12-years-old-sister meeting someone eleven years older than her, someone that would like to date her... and my dad WOULDN'T have something left of that person after I was done with him for trying to get close to my sister before she was AT LEAST sixteen years old.

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-18 01:40 am UTC (link)

Did you think it was weird how he didn't say that he waited until his girlfriend was of age in his initial post, and then he only mentioned it in a very evasive manner after being pressed? If I had been in that situation (in which case Hell would have frozen over), you can bet that I'd mention it in the very beginning, in no uncertain terms. But this guy didn't say anything until he had his back to a wall, and then he threw in way too many details (like the fact that he doesn't even jaywalk...wtf, who cares about that?). I'm just getting all this crap from pop psychology (The Gift of Fear), so feel free to correct me if I'm way off base, but a lot of times liars will throw in "too many details" because their main point sounds unconvincing to their own ears, so they have to dress it up.

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kalicephirot
2007-02-18 01:48 am UTC (link)

Eh, I dunno. I did get that, according to him (again, it's the internet; can't really know the truth from someone you haven't talked to, and even then it's still kind of iffy) they hadn't slept together until his girlfriend was legal from his first comment(something that they had waited or something? I can't exactly remember... here "And indeed, for various reasons, her chronological age did not match up with where she was in her development -- but she was still 13, hence the wait. I'll handle the rest of any potential flak as it comes. :)") but it's just... kind of creepy. I mean, I know my sister is really mature. I also know that she loves anime and she gets weird when someone tries to cuddle her and she's still a kid, despite maturity for other situations.

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-18 02:08 am UTC (link)

Oh well, that'll teach me to not read carefully. :P But--and this is a stretch--notice how he doesn't say how long he waited. He just basically says, "She was 13 so we waited." That could mean waiting until she was...fifteen? Sixteen? Not necessarily 18, or whatever the age of consent is in their state. Which is where the whole "in no uncertain terms" would come into play...basically, making it very clear that you waited until someone was actually *of legal age* before boinking her.

I think I'm just way too fascinated by his responses. They're just waiting for a psychologist to dissect them.

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	kalicephirot 2007-02-18 02:14 am UTC (link)
	That, I can agree. I am too fascinated by his responses, in the whole Trainwreck way that I really don't want to think too much about them at all because, squirmy. I want to give him the benefit of doubt if only because he doesn't seem that crazy. Then again, that's not much saying. Ach, this just leaves kind of dusty taste in the mouth. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2007-02-18 02:23 am UTC (link)
	I'm a little squicked just that he said "waited." He wanted to fuck the 13 year old, but held himself back. He wanted to fuck the 13 year old. Even if she looked older/acted older...wouldn't most people be going "Ugh! Only 13!!" too much to want anything that needs postponing? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(Anonymous)
2007-02-18 02:50 am UTC (link)

Ew, that's true. I wasn't even paying attention to the connotations that that word has (i.e. "I want to have sex with you but you're just a kid..."). Too busy trying to look for the lies [that I think] he was spinning. So even if he is on the legal side of things, he's still a gross gross person.

For some reason, this brings to mind the story of Mick Jagger and Mackenzie Phillips (she was that crazy former child actor, and she was also the daughter of some guy in The Mamas and the Papas, so she knew the rock n roll crowd fairly well from an early age). Apparently one day when Phillips was eighteen, she and her father were making tuna fish sandwiches in the apartment with Jagger. Jagger sent Papa Phillips off to get some mayo. As soon as Papa Phillips left, Jagger locked the door, turned to Mackenzie, and said, "I've been waiting for this since you were ten years old." Legal behavior, but still skeezy as all hell.

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	mistressrenet 2007-02-18 09:31 pm UTC (link)
	John Phillips, the songwriter. And that story still creeps me the fuck out. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	digigirl132 2007-02-18 02:52 am UTC (link)
	Yeah. I laughed sso hard at him in those comments. All he had to do was say "We waited until she was of legal age", but instead he danced around the topic. smacks people simple is better. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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