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Freezer - a buffet of manliness! ([info]freezer) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-02-18 10:53:00


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Camille Paglia is back, wank follows.
Props to the Wank Report mousies.

Over at Salon.com, infamous "feminist" Camille Paglia* makes her return after a six year hiatus. The second paragraph of her return column serves as a welcome mat to her fans or a warning sign to the haters, depending on your POV.


I had certainly assumed the Web was surfeited with more than enough material, but evidently many others beside myself find the partisan polarization of the blogosphere numbingly predictable and its prose too often slapdash, fragmentary or drearily prolix.


Um... What?

The Salon readers are, for the most part, going 1/3s "Yay, she's back" and 2/3s "OH HELL NO!"

For. Five. Hundred. Plus. Entries.

There are some choice potshots to be had, at Paglia herself, her haters, and a couple at Molly Irvins (whom one of the first posters referenced re: her appraisal of Paglia).

Internet commentary is serious bizness!



* Reader Rupert sums up Paglia's style thusly:

One third worthwhile insight, incisively articulated.

One third provocation for the hell of it (also worthwhile).

One third damn fool nonsense, delivered in the written-word equivalent of bombastic prog rock.

Stir up with equal parts narcissism and generosity.


Personally, I tend to think of her as the batshit liberal ying to Ann Coulter's batshit conservative yang.


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[info]footsie
2007-02-18 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Yay boombastiks prog-rock!

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-20 05:43 am UTC (link)
After looking at your icon, that wank's not that serious anymore.

(goes to Youtube to watch episodes of Metalocalypse)

-Balla

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[info]singe
2007-02-18 06:42 pm UTC (link)
I had certainly assumed the Web was surfeited with more than enough material, but evidently many others beside myself find the partisan polarization of the blogosphere numbingly predictable and its prose too often slapdash, fragmentary or drearily prolix.

Gah, speaking of dreary...

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[info]bubosquared
2007-02-18 09:32 pm UTC (link)
Even trying to figure out what she's trying to say isn't interesting enough to keep me awake.

Nap time, anyone?

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-02-19 01:48 am UTC

[info]warrioreowyn
2007-02-18 09:53 pm UTC (link)
Right, because that sentence isn't prolix at all.

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[info]pyrrah
2007-02-18 06:57 pm UTC (link)
This woman writes as if a barrel of GRE had barfed on her...

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[info]thexphial
2007-02-18 07:03 pm UTC (link)
It's Molly Ivins, and people taking a potshot at Molly Ivins need to be staked out to a pile of fire ants in the hot Texan sun. She only died a few weeks ago. Even people who she ripped on (for good reason) like Pres. Bush had kind words for her wit and integrity. People, if you're less gracious than G.W. Bush, something is SERIOUSLY wrong.

(cleans up after herself)

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[info]makeshyft
2007-02-18 07:08 pm UTC (link)
I had certainly assumed the Web was surfeited with more than enough material, but evidently many others beside myself find the partisan polarization of the blogosphere numbingly predictable and its prose too often slapdash, fragmentary or drearily prolix.

*ring, ring**

Hello?

Oh, yes, yes.. I see.. thank you sir.

*hangs up*

Camille? That was Lewis Carroll calling from the past. He said you need to stop stealing his adjectives and start being less batshit..

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-02-19 02:06 am UTC
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[info]ichigatsu
2007-02-18 07:18 pm UTC (link)
But bombastic prog-rock is fun!

Other than though...nyeargh. Too many big words.

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[info]southerngaelic
2007-02-18 07:45 pm UTC (link)
....What in the googally mogally hell is this woman going on about? Oo

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(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2007-02-18 07:55 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2007-02-18 11:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-02-20 01:51 pm UTC
Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote
(Anonymous)
2007-02-18 08:02 pm UTC (link)
My first exposure to Camille Paglia was an explicit (to my young eyes) article she wrote in the TV Guide Star Trek anniversary magazine about her obsession with Data. I still think "Shit, that crazy Data-stalker sure made a name for herself."

Anona M.

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Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - (Anonymous), 2007-02-18 08:16 pm UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]airborne_rodent, 2007-02-18 10:00 pm UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]ayezur, 2007-02-19 12:31 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]khym_chanur, 2007-02-19 01:15 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]chibikaijuu, 2007-02-19 05:26 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]khym_chanur, 2007-02-19 05:29 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]chibikaijuu, 2007-02-19 05:39 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]drhenryjekyll, 2007-02-21 01:47 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2007-02-19 10:52 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]rimrunner, 2007-02-19 03:02 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2007-02-19 10:53 am UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]ayezur, 2007-02-19 03:36 pm UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-02-19 06:41 pm UTC
Re: Oh noes, a mousie with a personal anecdote - [info]ayezur, 2007-02-19 07:23 pm UTC

[info]dreamer_marie
2007-02-18 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I just started reading Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets again, and while reading her column I couldn't get these words out of my mind: Magical Me...

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madonna madonna madonna
[info]entelodont
2007-02-18 08:58 pm UTC (link)
I LOVE Camille! She's so crazy.

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[info]xero_sky
2007-02-18 09:27 pm UTC (link)
After a six-year absence, our cultural high priestess and pioneering Web proto-blogger has returned!

I'm confused about this bit. Is it supposed to inspire enthusiasm in the reader, or intestinal cramps?

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-02-19 01:52 am UTC

[info]seraphtrevs
2007-02-18 10:01 pm UTC (link)
I read this book by her one time where, IIRC, she was trying to convince everyone that Emily Dickenson was the "female Marquis de Sade."

It was weird.

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WHAT. - [info]freezer, 2007-02-19 01:09 am UTC
Re: WHAT. - [info]seraphtrevs, 2007-02-19 01:18 am UTC
Re: WHAT. - [info]brown_betty, 2007-02-19 02:01 am UTC
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Re: WHAT. - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-02-19 05:09 am UTC
Re: WHAT. - [info]sepiamagpie, 2007-02-19 10:23 pm UTC
Re: WHAT. - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-02-20 04:21 am UTC
Re: WHAT. - [info]littlest_lurker, 2007-02-19 05:27 am UTC
Re: WHAT. - [info]anonyrat, 2007-02-19 06:14 am UTC
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[info]mcity
2007-02-18 10:55 pm UTC (link)
prolix
You know a word is pretentious when Google's first few results are all dictionaries.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-02-19 08:30 pm UTC

[info]annaham
2007-02-18 10:56 pm UTC (link)
I love how anything that comes out of Camille's mouth makes me wish there was a Total-BS internet translation service, akin to BabelFish (sp?). It could be called BullFish or something.

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(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2007-02-19 08:20 am UTC

[info]jenny_atrox
2007-02-19 12:22 am UTC (link)
Shut the goddamn hell up, Paglia. You know what would be awesome? If you didnt blame the victim and call it feminism. I would totally love the hell out of that.

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[info]damien
2007-02-19 01:58 am UTC (link)
Personally, I tend to think of her as the batshit liberal ying to Ann Coulter's batshit conservative yang.

...Fantastic. We now have our very own pseudo-feminist batshit rep.

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(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2007-02-19 02:25 am UTC
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[info]demonbean
2007-02-19 02:49 am UTC (link)
</i>I had certainly assumed the Web was surfeited with more than enough material, but evidently many others beside myself find the partisan polarization of the blogosphere numbingly predictable and its prose too often slapdash, fragmentary or drearily prolix.</i>

That was a lot of P's. In which case, I think it should have gone something like this: "I had positively predetermined that the Web was packed with prolific pages of patriarchal parsimony, but we've proved that posses of penners find the partisan polarization of the blogosphere positively predictable and its prose perfunctory or painingly prolix."

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[info]rimrunner
2007-02-19 03:00 am UTC (link)
Huh. I'd wondered what happened to her.

(I've also sometimes wondered if she was the inspiration behind Dykes to Watch Out For's Sydney, at least early on before the character developed a measure of sympathy.)

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(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2007-02-19 05:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2007-02-19 09:36 pm UTC
FTMFF
[info]gun
2007-02-19 10:21 am UTC (link)
It took me quite a long time, even a number of years, before I was even able to speak openly. My God, "Sexual Personae," which is a great scholarly book for Heaven sakes, "Sexual Personae" was treated, was called... the most evil book ever written...

I refuse to comment on how fucking long her sentences are, but is this woman seriously Chancery Stone in disguise?

She has weird things about homosexuals, she thinks the world of her own writing, and her grammar and sentence construction are clunky. A quick question, as someone who's never read "Sexual Personae", but are there straight men having sex in it?

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Re: FTMFF - [info]kannaophelia, 2007-02-19 10:50 am UTC
Re: FTMFF - (Anonymous), 2007-02-21 12:29 am UTC
Re: FTMFF - [info]seraphtrevs, 2007-02-19 09:43 pm UTC

[info]eljuno
2007-02-19 09:40 pm UTC (link)
Did I just hear 'bombastic' 'rock' and 'feminism' used in the same entry with an undertone of 'really bad idea'?

That calls for this.

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[info]didodiva
2007-02-21 12:50 am UTC (link)
I'd pay more attention to the wank if I could stop melting over that hamster in Freezer's icon. My God, that's actually cuter than the hula rat and I didn't think that possible.

As for the Camille woman, she sounds like the type who's spent half her life in academia but come out of it with nothing beyond a large vocabulary.

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redwarrior
2007-02-21 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I went to one of her talks at my uni.

She's actually pretty grounded.

And if you think she's a batshit liberal, you probably haven't heard Noam Chomsky speak.

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(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2007-02-22 06:18 am UTC
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