I'm jealous that other comms wank less
Note: No horses were molested in the making of this wank.

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dbvanhorn posts a Heinlein quotation about jealousy, under the title "Thought for the day." The quotation reads, "Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition. The immature mind often confuses one for the other, or assumes the greater the love, the greater the jealousy. In fact they are almost incompatible; both at once produce unbearable turmoil." Surely this comment couldn't cause drama in a community of people who choose to have multiple lovers and work to minimize the effect of jealousy on their lives ...

OR COULD IT.

Yeah. It could. People react negatively to the quotation.

dbvanhorn then edits the post to remove the quotation and say (if I recall correctly) something about how he "didn't expect the quotation to bring so much hostility." Latecomers, like me, are left saying WTF? The mod,

00goddess, weighs in on the "passive-aggressiveness" of the edit.

dbvanhorn then puts the quotation back in the original post, along with a little more tiny-violin self-serenading. And, naturally, everyone wanks about jealousy. (I assure you, my comments are entirely unwanky. *nodnod*)

So, baby, what are your thoughts on poly?

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	dragonfangirl 2007-03-13 10:35 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not sure Heinlein is a good source to quote on jealousy, given that the man had some truly fucked up ideas about relationships. His philosophy, I understand it, was that "I should get to sleep with as many girls as I like, and nobody's allowed to be jealous. However, the girls should only want me, because that's love." Not unlike the horse guy, come to think of it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	littlest_lurker 2007-03-13 10:48 pm UTC (link)
	I wonder if attitudes like that are one of the big reasons why so many people disapprove of poly relationships: because they're often perceived as one dude with possessing lots of wifes/girlfriends rather than rather than a group of people having a relationship. /thoughts on polyamory (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

dragonfangirl
2007-03-13 10:51 pm UTC (link)

I remember the horse guy opening up the whole can of worms, basically, with a post saying "I have what I call the Stallion mentality, where I want to have lots of girls but want them to be devoted to me" and et cetera.

I, for one, vote that all references of this type should be changed to "Walrus mentality." Maybe it would help them feel less smugly self-congratulating about their macho untamed wild animal ways.

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	tangentialone 2007-03-13 11:09 pm UTC (link)
	I for one support this phrase. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	littlest_lurker 2007-03-13 11:55 pm UTC (link)
	I would have used "asshat", but Walrus works too. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	eilan 2007-03-14 09:14 am UTC (link)
	"I have what I call the Stallion mentality, where I want to have lots of girls but want them to be devoted to me" Well, if girls = female anything, yes ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	tangentialone 2007-03-13 11:14 pm UTC (link)
	...And, if you're willing to take the Lazarus Long books as representative of his opinions, too, that's even creepier. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	grapefruitzzz 2007-03-16 05:30 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, he achieved his ultimate lifetime ambition and got to fuck his mother! While she was still young! And then there was that girl he groomed as a wifey from the age of six. What a star. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	seiberwing 2007-03-13 11:45 pm UTC (link)
	And that all women always want sex. That's why I stopped reading his stuff. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mindset 2007-03-14 04:07 am UTC (link)
	Really? That's rather contradictory to his characters, especially the Longs, Burroughs, and Stones. I mean, yes, one doesn't attribute character beliefs to the author, but as he was practicing poly in RL... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	deconcentrate 2007-03-14 04:08 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I mean, I have a fondness for STARSHIP TROOPERS something fierce and try to make a rereading an annual ritual, but there's a reason I don't really try to read any others of his books anymore. Besides, toon!Dizzy was so much cooler than book!Dizzy, and that automatically makes the cartoon ten times awesomer than the book, amirite. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sashenka 2007-03-14 05:10 am UTC (link)
	This is also a man who wrote a short story about a hermaphrodite who time traveled enough to be her own mother and father. Good story, though. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	the_clichemoth 2007-03-14 09:00 am UTC (link)
	And that's not the philosophy of most poly guys (not all) out there? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	squib 2007-03-13 11:45 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, another wank where the Purple Drama Duck is in it, but not the wanky party. My head all 'splodey now. (I'd like to beat that Vanhorn guy. He looks like the one and only poly fling I ever had, and he's got the same Newage-rhymes-with-sewage speak ("Dis-ease"-- eeearrgggh) and passive-aggressive wankitude. Not happy memories, man.) (Reply to this)

	photosinensis 2007-03-14 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Call me when the Nazis pay a visit. After all, if the subject of the conversation is either Heinlein or homosexuality, the probability of such an event is arbitrarily set at one. (Reply to this)

	wrongly_amused 2007-03-15 01:13 am UTC (link)
	So, baby, what are your thoughts on poly? I'm rather fond of the hexagons and rectangles, myself, but mama always warned me about those squares - wait, what? (Reply to this)