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Damien Raptore ([info]damien) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-03-27 09:04:00


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You just don't understand her religious principles!
Over at BRPS, [info]2headed_chicken makes a post about how her sex slave character doesn't need rescuing because she's martyring herself for religion and would people please stop trying to save her?

My character is a slave. She is made to dance in bars for money and if someone pays extra, they can take her into a backroom for an hour. She is used by her owner, his friends, his business associates, hell even people they're just trying to impress as a sexual plaything and beaten if she doesn't live up to someone's expectations. When she isn't being violated for profit or fun, she's kept in chains in the basement of her owner’s base of operation. Basically she's the gimp with a better wardrobe.

But guess what?

It doesn't matter to her. She worships a god that gave her hope when she had none and now gets her through this everyday. She has been taught that one is never given more then they can take, that her path was chosen for her before she was even born, the world around her is just a burnt and broken shell that one day her god will wipe away, and when that time comes, the unbelievers will be smited. She can laugh and sing and smile at those who abuse her not because she likes them or likes what they're doing, but because her heart is filled with pity for them. They will spend eternity in hell while she will sit at the right hand of her god, the least she can do is to not make their time here on earth any worse. She doesn't cringe at every touch and dread every sexual encounter. She has been taught that pleasure is a gift and that there is no greater honor then to bring someone closer to god. So every night spent on her back bringing some idiot to his rest is an act of piety to her. It's not ‘rape’ or ‘sodomy’, it’s worship. And just because she lets someone have a free tumble doesn't mean she LOVES them. There isn't room in her heart for romantic love; the only thing she has room for anymore is companionship. Those she cares about, she tries to convert and those freebies are just her being a missionary to her faith.

So you should know this. She doesn't want to be saved. Your repeated attempts to free/buy/marry her are not welcome because if her life was that easy to fix then my girl's got herself a dilemma. If all this could be taken care of just that easily then the years of torture and abuse and violence aren't noble tests from her god but only ordinary misfortunes. If she could be 'saved' by the actions of a simple man while her god just ignored her, then what was it for? So all her gentle but repeated dismissals of you and your help aren't her being scared or brainwashed, it's her holding onto her faith. She has told you this. She needs what she does to be holy because she would die inside if it's not.

And speaking as her player, I don't appreciate it either. If your character could fix her then that means in some way, what she currently is, is broken and I'm wrong as her player to thwart you. I purposely took a common fantasy archetype and turned it into something different and I like her for it. Even as she is on a stage somewhere, dancing in a metal bikini for dollars, or on a stained mattress, thinking of her god, or on her knees, taking a beating, she is beautiful and noble and virtuous in a way most people can only hope to be.

So quit trying to be her hero. She already has one.


There have been posts like this before but perhaps because of the specific acts described, the post explodes with nearly two hundred comments. The very first comment has [info]guardian_yugi being frightened of her character but [info]2headed_chicken says she was making a point about the difference between the religious and the rational.

The bulk of the wank, however, takes place in this thread where [info]paperclipchains calls the OP's char a tired Mary Sue and refutes the OP's claim that she's subverting the patriarchy a fantasy stereotype. [info]f1ibbertigibbet wants us to think of the STDS, and [info]nocebo_response stands up for sodomy. [info]scattercat and [info]paperclipchains play the I'm rubber and you're glue game. In fact, those two apparently have history. The wank will not stop -- the OP even invokes Godwin's Law, has it pointed out, and then people argue about how Godwin's Law actually works.

There's also discussion of what rape is with bonus definitions of Gor and BDSM lifestylers, an example of what the OP is up against and a lot of people agreeing that any good-aligned char wouldn't be able to just ignore her sex slave's suffering. For bonus points, people discuss BDSM again, complete with personal anecdotes, compare the slave to a nun, wank about taking the power out of rape, and request she move it to the adult BRPS comm.

My default icon is weirdly inappropriate for this wank.


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[info]funwithrage
2007-03-29 12:26 am UTC (link)
Oh, man, I didn't even know there *was* a fandom.

I agree with you, though. These books are about magical hookers. MAGICAL BDSM HOOKERS. They're lots of fun, especially the world detail*, but not so much with the srious bizness, guys.

*I would totally play a Night Court RPG. Oh my God, the pretty.


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[info]ayezur
2007-03-29 12:52 am UTC (link)
Oh but they do, they do.

Apparently it's managed to intersect with the more melodramatic members of gothic BDSM, so you've got people mucking about claiming to be anguisettes and lypiphera and talking about how they feel such a real and powerful connection with the gods of Terre D'Ange.

And normally, I would not have a problem with that, because believe whatever gives you comfort and the spiritual and religious aspects of the novels are quite intriguing and commonsensical, but if you're going to take it seriously, treat it with some respect. You're not an anguisette. You don't want to be an anguisette. Nor are you a lypiphera; you don't want to be that either.

/wank

Sorry. I seem to have gotten my private irritations all over the thread. As for the Night Court RPG, there's something like that, only it's a sorting community so you can't pick your house and they have this "be nice" rule because "we are the most gorgeous and well-bred creatures on the planet, let's try to act that way," which kind of turned me off. Did they somehow miss Favrielle? The Houses =/= Cereus.

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Rantpants On!
[info]funwithrage
2007-03-29 03:13 am UTC (link)
Oh, those girls. I've been cornered by, like, five of them at parties. And they all want to explain how they're JUST LIKE PHEDRE OMG and how they want to make her clothing for costumes and oh my God shut uuuuup. (Also: no. You are not just like Phedre. You're into BDSM, and that's cool, but it doesn't make you profound or original. BDSM is the new bisexuality. Every goddamn college sophomore has a dog collar these days.)

Aw, man. And I wanted to play someone from Orchis, Dalhia, or Byrony, too, and that sounds like the sort of attitude that wouldn't go well there. Plus, "be nice"? For a sorting house based on a canonically bitchtastic group of courtesans? Hah.

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Re: Rantpants On!
[info]ayezur
2007-03-29 03:30 am UTC (link)
I know.

However, I am totally applying just to see what happens.

It's night_court over on eljays.

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