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	memoriamvictus 2007-04-18 01:31 am UTC (link)
	Eh, it was mostly the accent that threw me, but that puts us squarely back into "LOL rednecks/New Yorkers/Quebecois/etc talkz funny!" territory. (Or perhaps I was being a stupid ugly American and mortally offending everyone by tossing 'ustedes' around. Eeep.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2007-04-18 06:56 pm UTC (link)
	Err, hell...sorry about that. I had it ass-backwards and had to think about it for a moment. From what I've been told by various teachers and relatives, ustedes is just a little more casual, kind of like 'ya'll' vs. 'all of you'. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

memoriamvictus
2007-04-18 07:18 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, it seems to be in flux right now. (Your first comment sent me to Wikipedia with a "wait, what?" :>) I learned from Mexicans who only ever really used 'tu,' and had the impression that 'usted' was only for extremely formal occassions. I didn't even find out about 'vosotros' until I took a college literature class, wherein I was assured (again, by a Mexican) that it was equivalent to 'thee' and 'thou' in English.

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	vigilanterodent 2007-04-18 07:19 pm UTC (link)
	Oddly, I've been told precisely the opposite - that vosotros is casual, and ustedes is formal. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2007-04-18 07:24 pm UTC (link)
	And now I don't know what to believe. I could write off my teacher, lord knows the whole class thought he was a hippie pothead, but my family is usually good about these things. Maybe there's a difference in perception? My folks are all from Honduras... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

vigilanterodent
2007-04-18 09:41 pm UTC (link)

Possibly it's like what happened to "thou" in English? Since it's no longer in common usage, lots of English-speakers are under the impression that "thou" is the formal form of "you", when in fact the opposite is the case. I could see the perception of "vosotros" in areas which no longer use it being similar - it's old-fashioned and a little exotic, ergo the assumption is that it must be fancier.

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	annabelle_lee 2007-04-18 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe. You bring up a good point for it at least. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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