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napalmnacey ([info]napalmnacey) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-04-30 10:41:00


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Vegan Stupid: In Varying Fun, Full Flavours!
Ganked from stupid_free (I'm hoping [info]zannechaos both doesn't mind the fact that it's borne of stupid_free and appreciative of all the effort I shall be putting into this post).

Predictable disclaimer: My best friend is a vegan! I'm focusing on the stupid, not the ethics, folks.

This post is like a vegan wank BOMB. You go into it expecting one little trickle and suddenly you're in a big ol' puddle of splooge. It's coming (hah!) from all directions too, I don't know where to start. I feel like Belladonna! Okay, we'll start at the beginning!

There's a post in [info]veganism from a concerned [info]iammicah who is going to study abroad in México. Very RURAL México. Poor, rural - you get the idea. She says she can't reasonably continue her veganism for the four months she's there so she's going to slowly wean herself back onto meat after being vegan for six years. She was wondering if anyone there had any tips for her? It's kinda like asking a priest for sex tips but hey, maybe someone there might know so it's not ENTIRELY unreasonable.



Well, that's pretty much what she got back in the form of incredibly literate [info]kari_louise:

get out of this community if you want help not being vegan. why dont you try asking for hep being vegan in a foreign country before decisiong to throw away 6 years. everything youve stood for and worked so hard for 6 years is going to be crap now, everyone will cal you a hypocrite and if you ever go back to vegan people wi just augh at you "sure just another phase". read vegan freak it might help you.

Oh, she's pretty special, this one. Even the other vegans are going "Bzuh?!" at the rage involved. Obviously they just don't get what a TRUE vegan [info]kari_louise is.

Of course, other people urge her to not give up her vegan ways. [info]vanityisdeath went to México! Of course, he went to a city rather than a farm. He says:

Mexican people are some of the most considerate I have ever met. If you kindly explain to them (before they prepare you a meal) your dietary needs I'm sure they will cater to you. (bold mine).

Yeah, maybe you might want them to polish your floors for you too, hombré?

A little further down the thread, [info]kari_louise wins the Supreme Stupid award by calling an Orthodox Jewish woman "Hitler". But she doesn't stop there. It's time for a flounce and a reminder to all of the community rules!

[info]kari_louise: can i remind the community for who and what this is for?

What. This journal is intended to be a supportive community for vegans and those who wish to become vegan. As the community progresses we hope to make an informative, comprehensive journal as well as encourage discussions on veganism and animal rights. We support the fight for animal liberation and abolishing all forms of animal exploitation through protests, boycotts, civil disobedience and non-violent direct action (taking into account that you cannot inflict acts of violence against property and other material items).

Who. We welcome all types of vegans: animal-rights oriented, health-oriented, etc.



why was this post even allowed? i dont see where this says its supportive for people who want to stop being vegan.


(bolding hers)

But everyone tells her to STFU, which is wholly satisfying to read.

Of course, if in moral doubt, reference Star Trek:

[info]gsyh: In Star Trek, the Vulcans are vegetarians, but, they do know how to hunt and gather and during their survival trips they eat stuff like lizards that they found. Their reasoning is that if they could easily avoid causing any harm even to non-sentient beings in their daily life they should as it is the logical thing to do. If the consumption of animal life is necessary for survival, then it will be illogical to feel guilty over it because the lions gotta do what the lions gotta do to survive.

Makes me wonder whether they eat replicated meat since it's molecularly the same but nothing died...


... OKAY! Don't let Faux Klingons send REAL Americans to war, people! Or should that be... don't let Real Starfleet Officers and Vulcans eat Faux Chickens? Anyhoo, moving on!

This whole scuffle is taken to [info]stupid_free and that's where it develops and grows, like a fine wine vinegar. It's vegan bashing time! Amusing macro time, too!

It's at this point that [info]entelodont (that username makes me think "Entelo-DO!") links to a seperate, equally "WTF?!" inducing wank on [info]veganpeople where [info]sophia_corvino asks:

Ok -- question:

Birth control or no birth control pill? There are numerous bad ingredients in the pill and its most likely tested on animals. I'm on it right now for regulation and for the obvious -- but I need some advice in deciding to continue it.

Also -- what about prescription drugs? If its for something not-so-serious, do you take them?


Enter our next wanker - [info]willfishguy! - who believes in the POWER of VEGETABLES! He seems to also have missed that wank about English Majors (All eleventy hundred of them) and that putting "As a..." at the beginning of something doesn't mean shit.

[info]willfishguy: As a male, I sometimes like to express my opinion in regard to the birth control pills. I'm on the 'never ever take that garbage' side, but I usually dig myself into a hole when I do express it.

... What, NO, REALLY?! I don't believe it! A wordsmith and paragon of sensitivity such as yourself must be convincing hundreds of women that BCPs are wrong and evil! As a female, I sometimes like to express my opinion that half-witted grunts like yourself should mind your own friggin' business, but I'm wanking on myself here. The real jewel of this kerfuffle is when [info]willfishguy (am I the only one reading that as 'willful selfish'?) responds to a poster's comment that she absolutely *has* to take her asthma medication. Or she'll, you know, *die*.

[info]willfishguy: Asthma can be cured in thirty days. By first removing specific foods, then by taking daily doses of MSM and most importantly learning to beathe [sic] properly.

There is no internet slang, no meme, no macro nor funny little ASCII art piece that can properly express my absolute and utter FLABBERGASTEDNESS at that comment. See, I had to resort to made up shit using fictional words, I'm so full of :O

I leave you with that, my fine wankas.

ETA: Edited cause my brain failed and so did my grammar.



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[info]amymccabe
2007-04-30 12:41 pm UTC (link)
Sorta reminds me when I went to an environmental group and found them discussing how to convert people starving in third world nations to vegetarianism (their argument being that many of these people live and violent areas of the world and shouldn't be "traumatized" by having to witness the violent act of an animal being slaughtered for food.

I figure starving to death while watching potential meals walking around is more traumatic. "I know you're starving to death, but we're going to send you a few cans of soy beans. Don't eat the livestock!" Good luck with that people.

Not all environmental groups are full of that kind of batshit.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-04-30 01:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure that in all poverty striken areas of the world where it is cheaper for them to have vegetarian or near-vegetarian lifestyles, they already do so. Heck, most peasant food tends towards the meat-free anyway, cos meat's expensive.

Peasant food: defined as anything which has, over the course of several thousand years, developed to make the most disgusting possible ingrediants taste as good as possible. As contrasted with american food, which, over the past fifty years, has devoted itself to taking the most expensive and wasteful of ingrediants and making it taste as mediocre as possible.

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[info]amymccabe
2007-04-30 04:24 pm UTC (link)
I just can't help but to think of all those areas in Africa that are becoming desert because of climate change. Much of those areas used to be grasslands, where people hunted various types of deer or raised grazing animals. With the plant life, those animals are dying off too. If all you have is a half starved yak, then you should eat the half starved yak!

But yes, in much of those areas people can't afford to eat meat. It just seems pointless at the least and cruel at the most to attempt to restrict the diet of already starving people. And I doubt they'll have any luck with it. When you are starving, you eat what you can get.

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[info]frau_eva
2007-04-30 02:12 pm UTC (link)
Mmmm, white First-World kids telling everyone else what's traumatizing. I love the smell of priviledge in the morning.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2007-04-30 04:17 pm UTC (link)
*insert generic STOP BEING IN MY ETHNICITY snark here*

Rawr.

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[info]amymccabe
2007-04-30 04:20 pm UTC (link)
But they are going to make life better by restricting the diet of those with little to eat anyway. Somehow this will make them happier. Who cares if you are starving to death and the last thing you have is the pig? Killing it will make you feel bad. Blah.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-04-30 10:00 pm UTC (link)
I guess if you are going to starve to death anyway, you might as well go out with a clean conscience?

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[info]issendai
2007-05-01 12:44 am UTC (link)
Seriously. You live in a suburb and the only animal you've ever seen die is your pet hamster? Slaughtering an animal is traumatic. You live in the countryside and your job is raising animals to eat? Slaughtering an animal means, "Party time! We get steak tonight!"

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[info]frau_eva
2007-05-01 01:45 pm UTC (link)
Seriously. I've seen teeny little kids who treat the chickens like they're friends until its dinnertime. I REALLY would like to go to this meeting and verbally rip these priviledged kids a new one. Generally, just mentioning their priviledged status sends them into a tizzy.

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[info]chaimonkey
2007-05-02 04:33 am UTC (link)
Wow. Because everyone is so privileged as thou to be choosy about their diets.

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