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Rann Aridorn ([info]rann) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2004-01-19 17:18:00


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"Your fanfic prefs make you evil" meets "My Fanpanese is superior to YOUR Fanpanese!"
More Fanficrants wank.

Minervasolo decides that everyone needs to stop and think about what the tags on the fics they read say about them.

The problem with using too much fangirl Japanese in warnings is (a) the meanings becpome diluted and (b) it allows people to imagine they are reading something other than what they are.

Of course, she then goes on to say: So something I'm rather more comfortable with: yaoi. Yaoi, by definition, is very strong gay porn. No, not really, deary.

Wankiness is sure to follow.

I agree on the shota-con thing completely. It scares me. It really does. It's a whole new level of hypocrisy, even moreso than those damnable rapeissohawt fics.

But don't worry, I only TECHNICALLY think you're a horrible monster.

I, personally, love the line: Hm. If reading shota makes one a paedophile, then reading slash must make me gay.

As a warning to those in the first two rows of [info]otf_wank, you WILL get spooged.


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[info]musette
2004-01-20 12:56 am UTC (link)
Repeat after me folks. Fantasy is not reality. Fantasy IS NOT reality. Your fic preferences do not define your sexuality, because it is FANTASY. WHICH IS NOT REALITY!

::facepalm of doom::

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[info]iczer6
2004-01-20 01:04 am UTC (link)
What? You mean I can't understand the inner workings of another's mind just by seeing what porn they like?

Why didn't anyone tell me?

Now how will I judge people I've haven't met?

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[info]musette
2004-01-20 01:30 am UTC (link)
Well obviously only the ones who like teh hawt pr0n are worth dealing with. That much is still oh so very true.

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[info]virago
2004-01-20 08:30 pm UTC (link)
The way we all do! Icons, usernames, website membership (omg you're on LJ, you must be a 14-year-old drama queen) and what kind of entertainment they like. Or, if necessary, location or choice of emoticons. Or you could get creative and just make things up.

There, enough judgment-fuel for a cartload of trolls.

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[info]katsue
2004-01-20 11:19 am UTC (link)
Well said!!

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[info]musette
2004-01-20 06:25 pm UTC (link)
::mutter:: I had a guy I really only vaguely know on LJ ask me the other day how I was so free about putting my sexual fantasies out to the world (because I like slash and mention that fact). I about hit him.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-20 07:28 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-21 03:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-21 04:36 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-21 06:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-21 09:21 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-22 01:47 am UTC

[info]aruru
2004-01-20 01:00 am UTC (link)
Dammit, you beat me to posting this! XP

My favorite part was the citing of vague, easily malinterpreted studies, though.

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[info]rann
2004-01-20 01:44 am UTC (link)
Heh, sorry, Icz asked me to. n.n
Yeah, those studies are idiotic. If they were true, no one would be left alive, because we'd have all hacked each other to death with machetes and knife-gloves by now...

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[info]aruru
2004-01-20 02:38 am UTC (link)
Well, not exactly - she does say "70% of pedophiles are more likely to commit crimes after being aroused" in her statement, not the general populace (if it had been that, it would've been an even wackier post than it is O_o).

To which I have to say... uh, DUH? I mean, if you're giving someone a freaking stimulus directly relating to their personal kink, you have to expect the person to at least get a woody, yanno? I'm actually surpised this alleged "study" she cites (With no links, huh... FINE way of making your point, miss.) claims only a 70% likeliness and not more - I've noticed that "alarmist" types seem to prefer claiming percentages of at least 80%, if not more.


Other assumptions in this wank (thus far) that're amusing me are:

a) the claim that if you like gay porn, you CANNOT be totally, 100% straight. Uh, what? Okay, maybe that works if you believe that the very two ends of the Kinsey scale are straight/gay to the point of homo-/hetero-phobia, but... dude, whatever happened to people who just like looking at sex simply because it's sex?

b) the assumption one of the other posters makes that "if you like the visual/written depiction, then you're going to enjoy it more in real life." Uh, okay, then explain people who like reading and get turned on by, say, a BDSM scene with whipping and bloodplay, but would faint/run away in terror at mere idea of their partner suggesting to get a riding crop or a knife. Is it really that hard to believe that some folks might honestly just enjoy the mental imagery, and nothing else?

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Re: - [info]rann, 2004-01-20 02:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aruru, 2004-01-20 02:53 am UTC
Re: - [info]rann, 2004-01-20 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-01-21 10:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2004-01-23 12:21 pm UTC

[info]schuldig
2004-01-20 09:27 pm UTC (link)
*giggles*

And after a while it emerges she got it from Richard and Judy...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *giggles herself silly once more*

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[info]charabok
2004-01-21 02:38 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't help joining in and wanking at that. It was too, too amusing. Especially since she was arguing that as it was a *serious* talk show and she's taking an undergrad subject in stats, she's prefectly qualified to tell the world that reading fanfic=peodophilia!

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(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-01-23 05:26 pm UTC

ataniell93
2004-01-20 02:12 am UTC (link)
Okay, color me clueless, but why is stuff from fanficrants on [info]otf_wank and not [info]fandom_wank? If arguing about shota making you a pedo isn't fan wank I don't know what is.

Azalais Malfoy, veteran of too many shota, chan and 'cest wanks

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[info]rann
2004-01-20 02:12 am UTC (link)
I dunno... Icz asked me to do this one, and put it on OTF_Wank, so that's where I put it.

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[info]aruru
2004-01-20 02:22 am UTC (link)
I was a bit mystified by that myself.

I'm guessing that perhaps, it was because no "real" fandom was mentioned in the topic itself (yaoi and shota are genres that have original stories written for them too, after all), meaning the rant could also be applied to original fiction? At least, it's the only thing I can think of that sounds halfway understandable (seeing as there was already a poetry wank here before).

Anyway, I dunno. *shrug*

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[info]iczer6
2004-01-20 03:16 am UTC (link)
[I'm guessing that perhaps, it was because no "real" fandom was mentioned in the topic itself.]

That was my reasoning. No specific fandoms were mentioned and the argument seemed to be more about genres, styles and kinks which could apply to any sort of fiction.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-09 11:35 am UTC (link)
there are many mysteries in this universe :(

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[info]iczer6
2004-01-20 03:25 am UTC (link)
[If they get the idea into their heads that the young partner always enjoys the sex, then this could lead at the very least to a very humiliating scene for them with their peers, and I don't want to speculate about the most it could lead to.]

Asshat translation: Oh won't someone Please think of the children?

Honestly anyone who uses fanfics as a dating guide should be recieving some kind of at-home care, not surfing the net.

And one wonders why these girls parents aren't, ya know, raising their children.

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[info]smo
2004-01-20 05:01 am UTC (link)
If reading slash makes you gay, then I must be a dead gay Shinigami demon lord assassin telepathic console game character. And also a man.

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[info]rann
2004-01-20 05:06 am UTC (link)
Whoa! Fanfic can change your gender?! WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?!?!?!?
*hurries off to read more fanfic*

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[info]eljuno
2004-01-20 05:25 am UTC (link)
So, I'm a gay guitarist from New York in Chuck Taylors?

Or, am I a gay ex-Kaizer with a pet digital caterpillar and an unfortunate fondness for fuzzy purple sweaters?

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[info]smo
2004-01-20 05:28 am UTC (link)
The second one sounds more fun. Or at least more colorful.

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(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2004-01-20 05:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-20 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rhi_silverflame, 2004-01-20 06:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-20 06:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rhi_silverflame, 2004-01-20 07:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amand_r, 2004-01-21 08:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-21 04:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-01-20 06:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-20 07:31 pm UTC

[info]blackjackrocket
2004-01-23 12:25 pm UTC (link)
And I would be a gay Goth Lord possessed by a bi demon lord, and would tie you up in my van and everyone would think that I molested you when all I really did was extract your energy.

Works for me, I already have the purple trenchcoat.

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[info]musette
2004-01-20 07:30 am UTC (link)
And I apparently am a very dead, gay French rebel with a penchant for colorful vests and noble deaths, with a pack of friends who are also French, very dead, and gay. Or an early 19th C. English sailor with two incredibly hot shipmates who I shag frequently. Or a shabby wereworlf with a hot motorbike riding animagus boyfriend. Ummm, clearly I am not any of those.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-20 01:29 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-20 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-20 07:29 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-21 03:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-21 09:24 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-22 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charabok, 2004-01-21 02:36 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-21 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2004-01-23 12:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-01-23 12:35 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-23 06:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-01-21 09:44 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-22 01:51 am UTC

[info]faultypremise
2004-01-20 06:10 pm UTC (link)
*sob* My poor community.

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[info]smo
2004-01-20 07:30 pm UTC (link)
*gratuitous icon drooling*

Gojyo...

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