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Jenn ([info]wankaholic) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-05-19 03:50:00


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Ironically, I found this one through Google.
Oh noes! Google's new homepage uses Javascript!

Cue a wank about using Javascript.

We have the oblivious, "Who wouldn't use jscript?!":

people who do not have a javascript enabled browser by now SHOULD NOT BE on the web period. I can understand if someone is using say NoScript in firefox but who would not have google trusted eh?

The, "It doesn't degrade gracefully because I can't access one feature when I don't have jscript enabled though ostensibly I could!":

It does not degrade gracefully.
I use a web browser with javascript disabled by default. There is no longer any way to click to get to googlenews. Now, I'm not saying it's a huge deal. I can just create shortcuts for news.google.com, but the fact is, it doesn't degrade gracefully.
That would be detecting if jscript is enabled, and if not, using the old method, which worked fine.


Comparisons to the Romans!:

Yes, and the Romans complained that the Visigoths didn't fight fair, whaa freaking whaa. Yeah and they now require you to have electricity to run their site too, bastards.

I hate all of you neo-Luddites; go somewhere and peel potatoes by hand and stop bothering people.


Superiority over not using a browser with jscript compability!:

All you people saying this is a non-issue or no big deal are missing one very obvious fact:

There is the correct way to create the page, which works for everyone. There is the broken way to create the page, which works for almost everyone. Why on earth would you create the broken version rather than the correct version, unless you're an idiot?

Call me a luddite, I call you a script-kiddie, unable to function without shiny buttons to click.

>people who do not have a javascript
>enabled browser by now SHOULD NOT BE
>on the web period.

What a ridiculously uninformed statement - the "web" is not the internet. I say anyone who needs a fancy web-browser to navigate the internet should not be on the internet, period. Those of us who do *not* need a fancy browser to navigate the internet are the same ones creating all the nifty shiny internet sites and features for those of you who do.

>One idea is that if you visit google
>on a phone, those links would take
>up a lot of space

Laughable to suggest - you can always do it smaller *without* javascript

I know this article is a non-issue, just like any news you might read about warrantless wiretaps, the no-fly list debacle, ridiculous TSA requirements, and anything else that doesn't make specific mention of an iPhone.

Pathetic.


Tiny, but it's Google wank. What more could you ask for?


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[info]sheep
2007-05-19 04:53 pm UTC (link)
I don't think www.google.co.uk use java.

What's the problem with java anyway, the wank might make more sense to me then. Not that it needs to.

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[info]semtex
2007-05-19 05:07 pm UTC (link)
No, no javascript, java is a whole 'nother ball of codewank wax.

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[info]sheep
2007-05-19 07:36 pm UTC (link)
I'm so confused...

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[info]ghostmaster
2007-05-19 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Um, let me think. Okay, it's like if you have your email set to accept text only, and people start sending you html based messages. You wouldn't be able to read those messages properly. I think. I could be wrong; I don't know javascript, either.

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[info]sheep
2007-05-19 07:34 pm UTC (link)
But why not use it?

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[info]khym_chanur
2007-05-19 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Well, LJ's JavaScript code can take a long-ass time with pages that have lots of comments (like CFUD), which is why I have a Firefox extension which lets me toggle JavaScript on and off by clicking a little icon in the status bar. Then there's people who are paranoid about security holes, of which JavaScript has had a lot in the past, and thus might be likely to have more in the future.

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[info]semtex
2007-05-20 03:24 am UTC (link)
Oh I ♥ the Developer's Tools extension myself.

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[info]khym_chanur
2007-05-20 06:27 am UTC (link)
Hmmm, the XML Developer Toolbar? Can't find anything else that matches. Personally, I really like the NoSquint extension, which remembers what font resize changes you've made to each site. There's also a GreaseMonkey script which adds "?style=mine" to every single LJ link.

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[info]semtex
2007-05-20 07:43 am UTC (link)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60

Oooh I'll have to check out that nosquint thing! I'm constantly doing a cmd + plus sign to get that shit bigger.

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[info]alya1989262
2007-05-19 07:34 pm UTC (link)
And both google.com.eg and google.fr. I can't even open google.com; it switches automatically to google.com.eg. >:/

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[info]jim_smith
2007-05-19 08:08 pm UTC (link)
What's the problem with java anyway, the wank might make more sense to me then. Not that it needs to.

JavaScript is a programming language that can be used in a webpage to make it dynamic--that is, rather than a flat static page of HTML, a JavaScript-enabled webpage can make the content of the page change and, well, do tricks. Rollover images are made possible by JavaScript--when you move your mouse over the image, you trigger a bit of JavaScript code that tells the webpage to switch to another image. When you're on someone's journal and you reply to a comment and the little reply form appears automagically right under the comment? That's JavaScript.

This power can be used for good or evil, and some people disable JavaScript in their browsers because it increases the ability of a website to make annoying things happen on a webpage, like hiding the navigation bar or resizing the browser window or opening popup ads. This was a viable option seven or eight years ago, but by now so much of the web browsing experience relies on JavaScript applications that it's pretty hard to get along without enabling it. Google using it on their front page just made it a little harder, which is why these people are whining. Think of it as old guys who hate CDs complaining that you can't buy a new car anymore with an 8-track.

Also, JavaScript doesn't have anything to do with Java. The similarity in their names is just a shameless attempt by the people who developed JavaScript to cash in on the name recognition of Java.

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[info]sheep
2007-05-19 09:14 pm UTC (link)
Ah, thanks!

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[info]eilisliana
2007-05-19 09:25 pm UTC (link)
I always understood the difference between Java and JavaScript was that JavaScript was a coding language whereas Java was what got Cubis and JT Blocks to work properly on my computer.

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[info]jim_smith
2007-05-19 10:02 pm UTC (link)
They're both coding languages; they're just used in different things and maintained by different parties and have different syntaxes.

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[info]zaliesiren
2007-05-20 10:24 pm UTC (link)
You're one step ahead of me. I always thought Java meant coffee. Mm, coffee...

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[info]scarah2
2007-05-19 10:20 pm UTC (link)
Rollover images are made possible by JavaScript

CSS hovers! /purist

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[info]grrliz
2007-05-20 12:47 am UTC (link)
*concurs*

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[info]jim_smith
2007-05-20 12:48 am UTC (link)
Hey, I'm just trying to dumb it down for the n00bs.

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