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Elaine H. ([info]ehann) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-02 15:55:00


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Current mood:On Top of the World

Stick that Hybrid tea up your--
People that grow a lot of roses are often called Rose-mad. Well, over at the Garden web forums, rose growers hang out and debate the finer points of spraying versus organic, old garden roses versus hybrid teas, and big box stores versus small family owned nurseries.

Enter AKchicago. Long story short, she ordered four gallon size roses from an unrevealed family nursery, and paid extra money for the increased shipping costs. 78$, to be precise. Her roses arrived, except one of them had some broken canes. She emails the owner and the owner agrees to replace the damaged rose. When the OP calls back to follow up a couple weeks later, the owner FREAKS.

Here are some highlights:



The shipping costs were very high at $78 for 4 roses. 3 roses arrived beautiful. 1 arrived broken and wilted and barely alive cause it was poorly packed underneath one of the other roses. As soon as I received the roses, I called the website, and spoke to the owner. She was very concerned about the 1 broken rose, and asked that I email her photos, which I did (including one showing how it was packed). She then graciously responded that she had a new packer working, and he packed that one rose incorrectly, and that they would replace it. Her email saying that was dated May 14. I then emailed and called several times to follow up, since I never received the replacement rose. I finally got the owner on the phone today, and she did a complete 180. She got really weird, and wouldn't let me speak, just kept on going on and on how I was so unreasonable, and she just talked over me whenever I tried to talk. She said that since the rose was still alive (just barely, and certainly not worth the premium I paid for a 1-gallon sized rose, plus the extra shipping) I should just be satisfied with it. I told her the rose was quite frail, and though alive, was not thriving. When I mentioned her email, and her admission of the bad packing, she flew off the handle. I was at a loss.




Various posters chime in with such gems as,

It sounds like a MAJOR PMS problem to me. If you don't get your replacement rose soon, I'd let everyone what company this is. She sure doesn't need to be on the phone with someone like me and come unglued like she did. A bad name for a rose supplier is hard for them to get over.-- Ken SEFL

It sounds like the person you were dealing with has emotional or psychiatric issues that affects her differently from day to day. Perhaps she needs medication. I'm not trying to be mean in saying that, I just know that is the way things are for some people.--Katiekind

However, all is not well. Michealalreadytaken, a well respected poster has this to say:

It sounds like one of several things:

1) You're dealing with someone with a low IQ.

2) You're dealing with someone who ultimately answers to someone else with a different agenda.

3) You're dealing with someone who has a cash flow problem.

Regardless, you're not crazy--not even close. People pull stunts like this all the time--and yes--they always act like it's somehow your fault--and yes, it is disappointing.

I just hope you get your rose.

I wouldn't hold my breath though.

MichaelAT


Trospero, another well known poster fires back: Thats bordering on slanderous, IMO. Was that really necessary???

It quickly spirals down into a grumpy-old-man off, with many capslocked, GOOD DAY SIR!s, and seething comments disguised as politeness. A few posters try and recapture the sanity (this is about PLANTS for God's sake,) until this gem:

Patricia43--I have no idea who the vendor was but I think it should be stated here because we have tried and found guilty someone who has not even had an opportunity to state if the presentation here is accurate or not. There has only been one side. If either of you is ever on a jury, God have mercy on the soul of the accused, because you will have made up your minds after only hearing the charges, not the case.

But wait! MichealAT wants us all to know that Trospero is in league with the rose business!. (Which most of us noseyrosers know already, having purchased his roses at The Uncommon Rose.

Apparently, rosarians are just full of compost! Still, no wank would be complete without the requisite plea "Can't we all just get along?"



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[info]southerngaelic
2007-06-02 09:34 pm UTC (link)
Wow. And I thought nothing could top knitting, in terms of how many things people can wank over.

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[info]risha
2007-06-02 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Nah, the eggplant receipe was the most inane reason.

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[info]lyssa
2007-06-03 01:34 am UTC (link)
No, no, the MSG they were really wanking over was the true amusing inane wank fodder. Though, I'm convinced there is an even dumber wank out there, like something over hatpins.

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[info]nomadmatan
2007-06-03 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Hatpins are serious business! ;-)

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[info]theladyfeylene
2007-06-02 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Wanking over rose gardening.

This is a thing of beauty.

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[info]mcity
2007-06-03 03:45 am UTC (link)
A wank by any other name would be as sploogy.

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[info]slackeremeritus
2007-06-02 11:36 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure spooge is a fantastic rose fertiliser.

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[info]notjo
2007-06-03 01:40 pm UTC (link)
Oh, lord, you just had to, didn't you?

I'm now going to have *awful* dreams tonight. *grin*

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[info]catslash
2007-06-03 04:11 pm UTC (link)
I uploaded this icon just for the GIP.

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[info]wakkymse
2007-06-04 12:36 am UTC (link)
Nonsense. Rose bukkake is the new hot thing! And I can't believe I just said that.

-lee

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[info]fevered_ego
2007-06-08 09:16 am UTC (link)
Now I'm all thorny.

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[info]melandry
2007-06-03 12:01 am UTC (link)
Wow, Michaelalreadytaken has some hard-on for Trospero. And Patricia43 looked like trouble from the start.

The subject of the wank is novel, but same old (types of) wankers, it seems like.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2007-06-03 02:42 am UTC (link)
Now I'm imagining your icon in Gollum's voice: "The shenanigans, they vex us, they vex us, Precious!"

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-06-03 12:22 am UTC (link)
I know I've mentioned this before, but the biggest wank I've ever been witness to, bigger than the Prodigy Borg Intergalactic Conspiracy vs Bashers flame war of 1991, bigger even than the AOL Medical Debate Board Anti Vaccination wars of 2003, was a blow-up on a Yahoo Group which included a whole lot of BNR (Big Name Rosarians) and involved donations to a municipal heritage rose garden and the French refusal to back the US in the War on Terror (sic). It was mostly amazing for the number of published authorities and great age among the participants.

Given that, at one point, there were six mutually lethal conflicts on the old AOL garden board, this wank is sort of sweet and nostalgic (and the people know nothing, NOTHING about roses, and I am glad for the rule about trolling the wank, or I'd be in it up to my ears).

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[info]luthe
2007-06-03 01:49 am UTC (link)
Prodigy Borg Intergalactic Conspiracy?

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-06-03 02:09 am UTC (link)
This is the only remnant of the once great Borg Intergalactic Conspiracy which started on Prodigy as The Borg Club, an all-caps parody of TNG discussion and SF fannishness. The Bashers protested that the presence of the BORG CLUB made it impossible to discuss the serious matter of the Borg in TNG and how Jean Luc Picard was a traitor and nowhere near the captain that James Kirk was. Eventually the Basher's made Prodigy that the Borgs were an RPG, and they were chased to Delphi and thence to a print zine, before finally disappearing into the aether when Kahunus of Borg transferred her fannish interest to Xena.

It was a grand and glorious battle.

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verthandi
2007-06-03 01:11 am UTC (link)
*froths a little at the PMS comment* I hate it when anyone--whiner or otherwise--uses that as an excuse.

Also, much glee over gardening wank. Is there a wank equivalent of Rule 34?

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[info]ehann
2007-06-03 03:01 am UTC (link)
Oh, yeah, it was the PMS comment that got my hackles up, too. I'll show my cluelessness and bite--What's rule 34?

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verthandi
2007-06-03 03:03 am UTC (link)
There is porn for everything.

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[info]ehann
2007-06-03 03:10 am UTC (link)
Hee! Now THAT I should have known!

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verthandi
2007-06-03 04:48 am UTC (link)
That's okay. I didn't believe in the rule myself until I saw Ghandi porn on wtf_inc the other day. I will never doubt again.

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[info]singe
2007-06-03 03:47 pm UTC (link)
Ghandi what?! *keels over*

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[info]plazmah
2007-06-04 01:51 pm UTC (link)
until I saw Ghandi porn on wtf_inc

*brain explodes*

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[info]barankhy
2007-06-03 08:09 am UTC (link)
Well, dunno about official rules, but "If it exists, there is wank about it" has been one of my mantras since discovering otf_wank.

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[info]eldritch
2007-06-03 03:13 am UTC (link)
...all I know is that my ex-girlfriend was totally OBSESSED!!1! with roses.

I'm getting flashbacks.

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[info]makeshyft
2007-06-03 05:29 am UTC (link)
Just shows, a wank by any other comm.. still brings the lolz.

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[info]demonbean
2007-06-03 05:32 am UTC (link)
A rose by any other name would smell ... like splooge?

Erhem.

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[info]lady7jane
2007-06-03 11:37 am UTC (link)
It sounds like the person you were dealing with has emotional or psychiatric issues that affects her differently from day to day.

Now I'm no psychiatrist, but yes, that sounds about right. And even more so, judging by this secondhand knowledge on the internet, I'd say the problems lead all the way back to not having been breastfed.

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[info]singe
2007-06-03 03:49 pm UTC (link)
God, I love roses. Especially the older, more fragrant types.

(I've nothing else to add.)

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[info]catslash
2007-06-03 04:20 pm UTC (link)
Curse you. I clicked The Uncommon Rose link, and suddenly I want to fill my house with roses. I had no clue there were so many and so varied. They are beautiful.

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[info]daylightsparks
2007-06-03 09:44 pm UTC (link)
I know - if I didn't have a history of killing every plant I've ever owned, I'd buy a whole bunch of roseplants.

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[info]ehann
2007-06-03 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Oh just WAIT. There's more...

http://www.vintagegardens.com/


http://www.ashdownroses.com/




I could keep this up ALL DAY baby. (I'm known as noseyroser on lj.)

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[info]catslash
2007-06-04 01:25 am UTC (link)
. . . fail.

*rushes to look*

Good thing I'm already broke, 'cause I would be soon anyway. ;)

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-06-04 02:30 am UTC (link)
(Don't ask about why this got the Jay Buhner icon, some things are beyond explanation).

Thank you for posting these- I'd lost the link to Vintage when my other computer died, and they're shipping a lot more plants without waiting for propagation than they used to (I'm getting bummed because Heirloom has stopped shipping Rosa muscosa and hasn't had it at the greenhouse for eons) and Ashdown has a link to the Peter Beales Forum, which I didn't know was up and running.
I'm going to post a bunch of rose photos on my JF account just to have something there, so you can see the extent of my addiction.

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[info]ehann
2007-06-04 11:23 am UTC (link)
Awesome! (And it IS an addiction--I'm up to nearly 200 now.)

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-06-04 04:35 pm UTC (link)
I stopped counting years ago- I go down to Heirloom in August every year to buy their overstocks at half price, which means, lately, I'm growing minis in five gallon pots. I have three roses that take more than a day each, twice a year, to prune (Ispahan and Long John Silver, the latter of which makes a dark tunnel over 25" of walkway nest to the house, and Darlow's Enigma). I sort of kink of on purpose over-prune roses I'm tired of so I can plant new and different ones.

I have a little problem with plants the way Janis Joplin had a little problem with heroin.

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[info]lessis
2007-06-04 07:51 am UTC (link)
Oh man I love roses, and seeing some of those makes me wonder if I can do a potted rosebush for outside my apartment(can't actually plant it though) Some of the neighbors have managed to create a small forest of potted plants outside their place.

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[info]v_digitalwytch
2007-06-04 06:42 pm UTC (link)
I clicked too and find myself wanting to give roses another go. Back in Chicago, I had a nice yard with about 4 bushes growing rather well concidering I was mostly winging it.

Freakily enough, the bushes my one collie/shepard mix used to whizz on always grew the hugest blooms.

But since I'm now in desert country, not sure how well roses would fare out here without some pricey work.

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-06-04 07:23 pm UTC (link)
Trivia: the biggest rose bush in the world is in Tombstone, Arizona.

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[info]ehann
2007-06-04 09:19 pm UTC (link)
That's true. The Lady Banks rose. HUUUUGE.

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