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	also_not_a_pipe 2007-06-03 08:59 pm UTC (link)
	He's from Cincinnati, of course. Oh, Cincinnati, you bunch of conservative loons. When will I be able to stop being embarrassed to say that I live forty minutes up the road from you and like your city a lot better than the city where I am? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	alya1989262 2007-06-03 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	You mean people like him actually exist? DDD: Btw, I always meant to say, your username + icon rocks! g (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

also_not_a_pipe
2007-06-03 09:47 pm UTC (link)

Oh, let me tell you about Cincinnati.

Actually, let me tell you about Ohio. The House of Representatives had a bill pending that required women working in strip clubs to keep six feet away from the patrons at all times. The big, celebrated compromise that just passed is that they can get close to each other, they just can't touch each other and the clubs have to close by ten o'clock. Also, at least in southwestern Ohio (which is madly conservative, I've heard that the northern and eastern parts aren't so bad) people will complain that this Presidential administration is too liberal, but howl that they are being deprived of personal freedoms on an Orwellian level because the state just started enforcing the ban on smoking in public places that passed last November. That's the sort of state we're talking about. And Cincinnati has a reputation for being notably conservative here.

It's a gorgeous old city right on the Ohio River with some of the highest hills you'll find in the flat bit of the American midwest. Back in the mid and late 19th century, it was right up there with St. Louis and Chicago as one of the big, sophisticated cities in this part of the country.

Then it kind of declined when the railroads made the river not that important and nobody heard much from it until the 1970s or 1980s when it had a series of freakouts about pr0n and obscenity. There was a big protest over an art gallery exhibiting Robert Mapplethorpe's photography because one of those loud Community Values decided that it was just porn and had those scary gay men in it. Larry Flynt, who's behind the Hustler smut line, lives/d in or near Cincy and the company is based out of that area. He and the city had a fairly famous go-round about whether he and the company were allowed to continue existing in Cincinnati. (the most wonderful thing to come out of it is at one point along Interstate 75 there's an exit for a northern suburb that has on one side of it the Hustler Superstore and on the other side the giant frightening Jesus statue built by a weird evangelical cult. Approaching from the south, it looks like giant Jesus is reaching out for the porn store.)

I still really like it, personally, probably because I live near Dayton, which is where the people who don't find Cincinnati small and closed-minded enough go. But it's a fairly big city that has a lot of people who pride themselves on the fact that it "thinks like a small town" as the Cincinnati's weekly independent paper put it. They have a reputation for having terrible race relations, but I'm not sure how fair it is to still say that since most of that is based on history up to a riot in one of their worst neighborhoods back in 1994.

So basically, it's a fun place to go hang out if you're from the corn towns around here and don't feel like putting in the effort to go to Louisville, Kentucky or Indianapolis, Indiana (which are much larger and cooler, but almost two hours from this part of the state) and most of the people I know from Cincinnati are cool. But when Cincinnati does batshit moral/religio-political extremist, it goes all out. For example, someone just opened a Creationist natural science museum in one of the Kentucky river towns that are part of the Cincinnati metro area. One of the radio stations up here carries his show on Saturdays, and I listened to a little of one episode because it's hilarious. One of his proofs against fossils is a petrified hat someone found in a mine. For serious.

Oh, and thanks!

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	alya1989262 2007-06-03 09:55 pm UTC (link)
	boggles boggles again Wow... Staying the fuck away from there. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	also_not_a_pipe 2007-06-03 11:00 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not staying here any longer than I have to, I'll tell you. Ohio is special. (Reply to this)(Parent)

sepiamagpie
2007-06-03 10:14 pm UTC (link)

I still really like it, personally, probably because I live near Dayton, which is where the people who don't find Cincinnati small and closed-minded enough go.

I've been trying to figure out how this is a benefit, but I've decided I just missed where you mentioned you fed on their blood to survive or something.

And hey, I'm not hatin'. I'm 'vith' the vampire-american population.

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also_not_a_pipe
2007-06-03 10:58 pm UTC (link)

Well, it's kind of like if you get into discussions with college-age radical liberals who want something bad to happen to Bush so that he isn't President anymore, and how quickly they backtrack once it's pointed out to them that if Bush can't be President, then we'll have Cheney officially in charge. The one that's arrogant and kind of stupidly oblivious looks pretty good in comparison to the one that's arrogant and actively evil, you know?

(and really, darling, I was trying to keep that on the downlow. How do you think that the politicians who want to regulate the Internet are going to react when they find out that vampires can get into the Internets by turning into mist and going through the tubes?)

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alya1989262
2007-06-03 11:14 pm UTC (link)

how quickly they backtrack once it's pointed out to them that if Bush can't be President, then we'll have Cheney officially in charge

Ahahaha! Here, you'll find many people advocating that someone shoot the current president, who's been in charge now for 26 years. I have to point out to them that the last time an idiot thought shooting the president was a good idea was, well, 26 years ago, and that's why we've been under Martial Law ever since.
That usually shuts them up (or, you know, gets them thinking about how we could change things in an actually constructive way).

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pantyless_angel
2007-06-03 10:30 pm UTC (link)

(the most wonderful thing to come out of it is at one point along Interstate 75 there's an exit for a northern suburb that has on one side of it the Hustler Superstore and on the other side the giant frightening Jesus statue built by a weird evangelical cult. Approaching from the south, it looks like giant Jesus is reaching out for the porn store.)

Pictures PLEASE!!!! I'm begging you!

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also_not_a_pipe
2007-06-03 11:14 pm UTC (link)

This is the statue. Photograph isn't mine, but by a lady who has a photography blog at Blogspot that does a really nice job of capturing what's beautiful and cool about the Cincinnati area.

The best picture I've seen of Butter Jesus/Melting Jesus/Touchdown Jesus/Don Jesusvanni and Hustler is this maybe not very worksafe entry to the photoshopping game over at Jeeeb.us, run by some people I know from the Dayton National Novel Writing Month group.

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	blackjackrocket 2007-06-03 11:31 pm UTC (link)
	Man...here I thought the Notre Dame painting was worthy of the term "Touchdown Jesus". (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jat_sapphire 2007-06-03 11:37 pm UTC (link)
	This is beautiful. I particularly like the way he seems to be sinking into the earth. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	ahiru 2007-06-04 02:29 am UTC (link)
	Ah, the giant Jesus statue. I live outside of Cincinnati too and I pass that statue every once in a while. I like to think of him as Godzilla Jesus, rising up out of the ground to destroy ~~Tokyo~~ Cincinnati. Or maybe he'll just mosey over to the Creation Museum and ride the dinosaurs, just like he did way back when. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	barankhy 2007-06-04 02:40 am UTC (link)
	He looks like he's rising from Hell, but Satan remembered to give him a goodbye hot liquid steel enema just at the last moment. Ugly. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	plazmah 2007-06-04 12:32 pm UTC (link)
	Scariest. Jesus. Ever. shivers (Reply to this)(Parent)

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	nevadafighter 2007-06-03 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	I'm up in Cleveland, and I've driven through Cinci a couple times on my way down to Bowling Green KY. It's a gorgeous city at night when you come up north from the KY hills, but after reading this I'm beginning to think I'm quite content just passing on through on the way to Columbus or Louisville. O.o (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	also_not_a_pipe 2007-06-04 03:51 am UTC (link)
	I'm not so sure I'd want to live there, but Cinci isn't a bad place to go visit for a day. It is a pretty city, and there are some interesting parks up in the hills. Of course, I go down there for things that Dayton doesn't have, so it probably wouldn't be as exciting for people from cities with things like zoos and concert halls and such. (Reply to this)(Parent)

gloria_mundi
2007-06-04 12:47 am UTC (link)

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hallidae
2007-06-04 12:49 am UTC (link)

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	wankismyfandom 2007-06-04 01:15 am UTC (link)
	Thanks for the Louisville love. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	also_not_a_pipe 2007-06-04 03:47 am UTC (link)
	I'm from Louisville. If anyone would in Louisville would hire office staff from Dayton or I could figure out how to find library jobs on the Jefferson County website as the libraries' website tells me to, I would move back there in a minute. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	pastri_archy 2007-06-04 04:12 am UTC (link)
	(the most wonderful thing to come out of it is at one point along Interstate 75 there's an exit for a northern suburb that has on one side of it the Hustler Superstore and on the other side the giant frightening Jesus statue built by a weird evangelical cult. Approaching from the south, it looks like giant Jesus is reaching out for the porn store.) XD I roffle'd. (Reply to this)(Parent)

bigbigtruck
2007-06-04 02:23 pm UTC (link)

bill pending that required women working in strip clubs to keep six feet away from the patrons at all times. The big, celebrated compromise that just passed is that they can get close to each other, they just can't touch each other and the clubs have to close by ten o'clock.

Wow, that's stricter than the strip club laws in my Alabama hometown. Do the Cincinnati cops also raid the fun toy stores?

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	mousy_345e4 2007-06-04 07:22 pm UTC (link)
	mmm, yes. I moved from Seattle to North Olmstead. I was ever so glad to move home a year and a half later! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	semiotics 2007-06-04 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	I pass that Jesus every time I go down to visit my Cincinnati relatives. I love that stupid thing. It's so incredibly tacky. (My lapsed Catholic daddy always says that Jesus is saying, "Holy shit, what are my followers doing". He has that sort of look on his face.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

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