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luthe ([info]luthe) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-15 02:40:00


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Current music:U2 - Mysterious Ways

Jesurgislac: the new Ginmar?
It's apparently "Lowered Standards of Rape Night" over at slacktivist. Poor Fred.

Anyway. Fred posts a nice little piece on Mike McGrath, who is apparently a prosecutor in Montana. Mr. McGrath isn't a big fan of DNA testing proving people innocent. You would think a wank on our justice system would ensue. But no. We get rape wank instead.

Jesurgislac gets things off to a rolling start by stating that 1 in 12 men commit rape in their lifetime, followed by a definition of rape.

Now, most of the other slacktivist regulars are pretty easy-going, so they don't lose it in response to this. We get this exchange instead.

J: Isn't there a better term for that? Maybe "pity sex"? The kind of lay a woman might offer a guy who reveals himself to be such a thoroughly pathetic human being that she feels 51% sorry for him and 49% wants to get rid of him as efficiently as possible.

Jesurgilac: I'd guess you're male, J - am I right?

J: That engine-revving noise you all hear is Jesurgislac firing up her Political Correctness Motorcycle. Beware: I believe she intends to burn rubber.


The wank really takes off when Raka gets involved.

he knew she didn't want to have sex with him, but he wanted to have sex with her: her wishes were irrelevant. That makes what he did to her rape.

That's the second most insultingly reductionist definition of rape I've ever seen, and the first was intended as humor. Well done!

So if a child in a store pesters his mother until she buys him candy, that's robbery. And if my wife pesters me until I haul those old cabinets out of the garage and to the dump, that's slavery. If a friend says they'll meet me at 8:00 and doesn't show up until a quarter after, that's unlawful detention. Good to know.

No, I'm not defending the practice. "Pester sex" is already abhorrent on its own. It may even entail illegal behavior, such as harassment. But stretching the definition of rape to include unreasonable persistence doesn't make the behavior more significant-- it just insults victims of actual rape.


Sharaloth adds s/h/it's two cents. Which leads to a href="http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2007/06/groucho_javert.html#comment-72550760">straw-man argument! It is quickly pointed out to be a scarecrow.

Aaaaand we get a rape checklist!

I feel like this wank needs a drinking game.


There is an amusing sub-thread in there:

Silly Duane, only men can be rapists. Duh. Unless you're married to a man ?

85% Duane: No, Bugmaster, that's not correct. But, I will allow that the subtext to most of Jesurgislac's positions is men=bad, women=good.

Nevermind, I can't even back that up. But on this issue, I can come to no other conclusion. Why else would you exaggerate the problem to the level of a spoof and then when you admit incorrect statistics, speculate that the problem is worse ANYWAY? You certainly aren't HELPING win over minds and influence allies.

The only consistent has been the demonization of men, many who would consider themselves allies in the cause for enlightment in regards to The Battle Of The Sexes.

But you know, that's women for ya. Statistics continually indicate they don't have the reasoning power of men.

Bugmaster: It's true. Their brains overheat, the poor things...
Note: This entire exchange is sarcastic, just in case your detector was broken.

I'm stopping there, because this thing goes on for 190 comments.



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[info]vito_excalibur
2007-06-18 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Not necessarily! You fail for a completely different reason!

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[info]photosinensis
2007-06-18 09:10 pm UTC (link)
Well, aside from the obvious...

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