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Lizbeth Marcs ([info]liz_marcs) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-16 12:23:00


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Current mood:*sporfle!*

Massachusetts Brings the Wank...
Or rather, people from Tennessee bring the wank to Massachusetts via the magic of teh Internets.

Oh, joy.

On Thursday, the Massachusetts state Legislature killed a proposed ballot initiative that would amend the state constitution to define marriage as an institution between one man and one woman by a vote of 45 (for the ballot initiative) to 151 (against the ballot initiative). Since Massachusetts is the only state in the U.S. that performs and recognizes same-sex marriage, the vote means that the status quo is safe until at least 2012 (which is the earliest that opponents of same-sex marriage could possibly get the question to the ballot).

[I won't get into the process of explaining how the state constitution is amended here, since it is a little on the complicated side. Suffice to say that there was an election last year where not one supporter of SSM marriage was voted out of office, but more than one opponent of SSM marriage was. Enough opponents were voted out in general elections that the end result was Thursday's vote.]

Most of the folks (with one or two exceptions) on the b0st0n community are pleased with the result. The discussion is not terribly wanky, and what disagreement there is remains somewhat polite between opposing parties.

And that, most people thought, would be the end of that.

Enter blisspath, who has taken it upon himself/herself to inform the b0st0n community that those darn liberals of Massachusetts are...well, I'm not sure, really.

Hypocrite shows up in the tl;dr rant. So does "voter disenfranchisement" (ummmm, did he/she miss the part where pro-SSM legislators were kept in office or voted into office in 2006, while anti-SSM legislators were voted out?).

And also, don't ask me how, the Massachusetts Legislature is somehow guilty of squashing the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (hunh?).

Best part of all?

blisspath is from Tennessee.

Cue response from the b0st0n community: "WtF? Who asked you?"

People point out that in a representative democracy, the voters don't get to decide every little thing by popular vote. Other people pointed out that the state followed the legal constitutional procedure, so the day was won fair and square. Other people point out that the anti-SSM side lost despite some dirty pool to collect signatures from voters, so stop throwing around accusations against the pro-SSM side. And, of course, some angry religion wank.

Overall, not terribly wanky in and of itself, until this post, wherein blisspath announces that he/she is not sticking around to continue the argument (probably because the locals keep beating he/she with clue sticks).

Instead, he/she will zoom off to annoy people on the LJ New Jersey community by telling them how they should govern themselves from his/her home in Tennessee.

Be sure to check out this accusation that the OP deleted responses.

Tiny, but tasty political wank...although probably more amusing if you actually live in Massachusetts.

ETA: For a real sporfling good time, check out this wanky brawl over on honestyisabitch where both sides go at it hammer and tongs in more tl;dr posts than you've ever seen in your life. So much for anomie666 and anyone else trying to be reasonable about SSM. Be careful not to drown in the splooge. (thanks [info]zyna_kat!)

Also, it appears our Tennessee crusader is taking his/her crusade to other LJ comms.



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[info]kadath
2007-06-16 04:58 pm UTC (link)
I tried to explain initiative petitions to a friend from Brazil. He was like, "How do you function? Why isn't your state constantly on fire or something?"

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-06-16 05:06 pm UTC (link)
I know. Trying to explain the process to someone not from here is like pushing a rock uphill. Hell, there was one heck of a learning curve for people who actually do live here.

Although, on the upside, there are a lot more people in Massachusetts who actually knows how the amendment process works. If nothing else, the SSM debate was educational, even if it was distracting from the really important state business that needs to be conducted.

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(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-06-16 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2007-06-16 10:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2007-06-16 10:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-06-17 03:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2007-06-16 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-06-17 03:06 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2007-06-17 09:22 am UTC (link)
As someone whose state is constantly on fire, I resemble that remark!

But I suppose we can't blame this on the Governator.

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(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-06-17 03:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2007-06-17 08:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]red_eft, 2007-06-17 09:15 pm UTC

[info]wanktastic
2007-06-16 05:08 pm UTC (link)
*snarl* If I wanted links to open in a new window or tab I can do that myself. A pox on target="_new". A POX, I SAY.

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-06-16 05:14 pm UTC (link)
Fixed! Sorry. I automatically type those in. I've removed "target=_new" from the post.

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(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2007-06-16 05:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]liz_marcs, 2007-06-16 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2007-06-17 04:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beckyh2112, 2007-06-18 01:02 am UTC

[info]kumquat_of_doom
2007-06-19 01:46 am UTC (link)
Loving the icon. Carlotta was my favourite part of that movie. :D

Also, seconding the target="_new"-hate. Although not quite so vehemently, but it is irritating.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2007-06-16 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm disappointed that there seems to be no mention of Stan Rosenberg and Ellen Story anywhere. Western Mass. represent!

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[info]onaga
2007-06-16 06:02 pm UTC (link)
HELL YES.

*hugs her former representatives*

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[info]sidhebastardess
2007-06-17 05:28 am UTC (link)
Damn straight!

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[info]pantyless_angel
2007-06-16 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Yes but how far can we take it, should I be allowed to have all the guns I want? or take any drug that I want? We have to live in laws as a society and a state is a micro society. I am a Libertarian and want the most freedom for everyone as long as it does not affect the freedoms of another person.

...Ok...WHAT? Is she/he/it really comparing the right between two consenting adults to live as they want to being able to take things like heroine and crack cocaine?

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(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2007-06-16 07:34 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wolfsamurai, 2007-06-16 08:44 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wonapalei, 2007-06-16 09:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ella_w, 2007-06-17 01:01 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2007-06-16 10:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]guilty_as_sin, 2007-06-17 08:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pantyless_angel, 2007-06-16 08:07 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pantyless_angel, 2007-06-16 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 11:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-06-17 09:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-06-17 08:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - pastri_archy, 2007-06-16 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - pastri_archy, 2007-06-16 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - pastri_archy, 2007-06-16 10:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 11:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - pastri_archy, 2007-06-17 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - eviemouse, 2007-06-17 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2007-06-16 09:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pantyless_angel, 2007-06-16 10:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-06-19 07:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rimrunner, 2007-07-02 06:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arionhunter, 2007-06-16 11:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gunshou, 2007-06-19 12:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-06-17 09:25 am UTC

[info]zyna_kat
2007-06-16 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Ye gods and little fishes.

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(no subject) - [info]liz_marcs, 2007-06-16 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thexphial, 2007-06-16 08:07 pm UTC

[info]chikane
2007-06-16 06:41 pm UTC (link)
and want the most freedom for everyone as long as it does not affect the freedoms of another person.

Gay marriage totally affects the freedoms of other people.
Absolutely.

Except that, of course, it doesn't.

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(no subject) - [info]spacelogic, 2007-06-16 06:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2007-06-16 06:57 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 09:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2007-06-16 11:28 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]spacelogic, 2007-06-16 08:15 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 07:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-06-16 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-06-16 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 09:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2007-06-16 10:51 pm UTC
GIP - [info]bigbigtruck, 2007-06-18 04:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2007-06-16 08:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 09:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2007-06-16 09:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2007-06-16 10:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2007-06-17 12:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-17 01:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2007-06-17 07:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-06-17 10:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]antimatterspork, 2007-06-17 06:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]melusina, 2007-06-17 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]drhenryjekyll, 2007-06-20 04:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rimrunner, 2007-07-02 06:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spacelogic, 2007-06-16 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2007-06-17 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2007-06-17 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2007-06-16 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]funwithrage, 2007-06-18 12:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2007-06-18 12:23 pm UTC

[info]cat_mcdougall
2007-06-16 08:37 pm UTC (link)
Best advice I ever heard about this whole thing was "Change the legal language to define a 'legal union' as being between two consenting adults (and minors with stipulations) in the eye of the law granting them the right of taxes, health care and compensation for support, and tell the religious freaks to use marriage if they want. Since it's all quibbling over a freaking definition anyway, take the word out."

Which... I know, might be earth logic.

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(no subject) - pastri_archy, 2007-06-16 09:02 pm UTC
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(no subject) - pastri_archy, 2007-06-16 10:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-16 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-18 04:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-06-18 07:16 pm UTC

[info]hallidae
2007-06-16 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Ugh. This is the third time this week that some fuckhead on the internet has made me want to shrink into my little corner of the internet and refuse to admit I'm from Tennessee.

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(no subject) - [info]perletwo, 2007-06-17 05:42 pm UTC

[info]onaga
2007-06-16 10:53 pm UTC (link)
Also, it appears our Tennessee crusader is taking his/her crusade to other LJ comms.

This is disappointing copypasta. It doesn't even have a Fresh Prince reference!

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-16 11:36 pm UTC (link)
You! Out of my state!

...along with the other three-quarters of the population.

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(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2007-06-17 08:20 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2007-06-17 06:51 pm UTC
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[info]freezer
2007-06-16 11:42 pm UTC (link)
On behalf of sane Tennesseeans like myself, [info]hallidae and [info]redcoast, I would like to invite [info]blisspath to go die in a fire.

Seriously, folks. We're not all like that. Hell, most of us aren't that.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-17 02:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2007-06-17 02:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]castalianspring, 2007-06-17 09:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2007-06-17 09:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-06-18 12:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-18 01:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2007-06-19 12:12 am UTC

[info]demonbean
2007-06-17 12:34 am UTC (link)
well since you're leaving, we should give you a proper masshole send-off:

*middle finger*
fuck you.


/delight

I love my people!

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[info]holyheadharpy
2007-06-17 02:40 am UTC (link)
Wow so many sane people from Tennessee here. But like them I'd just like to say (the first thing that pops into my mind) You! Out of my state! It's bad enough to be that wanky, but to be that wanky, closed-minded and from my state! Oooohhh man, that's just....blergh!

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[info]thoms
2007-06-17 02:45 am UTC (link)
Get out of my state. Get out of my state. GET OUT OF MY FUCKING STATE!!!

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verthandi
2007-06-17 05:12 am UTC (link)
S/he sounds like half of my Tennessee "relatives." Well, less than half since them wimmin-folks aren't allowed opinions. I like to pretend I'm not related to them.

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(no subject) - [info]utahraptor, 2007-06-17 09:53 am UTC

[info]sidhebastardess
2007-06-17 05:37 am UTC (link)
I love my state so much. :)

I'd comment on the honestyisabitch post (something about the word "cheapen" in particular), but I'm way too close to this subject. Wank wank wank.

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(no subject) - [info]visp, 2007-06-18 12:24 pm UTC

[info]panthea
2007-06-17 07:21 am UTC (link)
...how sad is it that now I'm getting all my real life news from Journalfen?

Ah well. I ♥ you, Boston/Mass. Here, have some penguins.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2007-06-17 03:05 pm UTC (link)
Holy crap. njyokel's in it with anomie666 in honestysabitch and he's - well, he's being a troll as usual, but he's taking a stance that's not full of smegma and fermented day-old coffee!

*looks out window, anticipating the appearance of airborne porcines!*

Also, the Masshole Sendoff is for win.

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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2007-06-17 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-06-17 07:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2007-06-19 12:16 am UTC

[info]queencallipygos
2007-06-18 04:19 pm UTC (link)
If anyone spots her in the NY fora, can someone let me know? I'd love to watch THAT reaction.

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