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dreamer_marie ([info]dreamer_marie) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-24 00:10:00


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Atheists: Like Those Mean Girls in High School, in a Way
Over at the LJ community [info]dark_christian, [info]nebris reposts an article called  An increasingly outspoken community of atheists and agnostics is getting fed up with being marginalized, ignored and insulted. It's mainly about Dawkins's and Hitchens's success with their books about atheism and how it gave a lot of Americans the guts to own up to the fact that they're atheists (apparently atheism is next to communism in the good ol' USA).

It's a direct success when [info]roseross replies, in the first comment:
Militant atheists are the only group other than the Dominionists who scare me because they are so intolerant of others' spiritual beliefs. They insult people who believe differently than they do. They insist that ALL will some day believe as they do, because they're the only people who have it right. They often feel using the government to enforce their worldview is a good idea. In short, the only way to tell the difference between a militant atheist and a Dominionist is which creed they intend all of us to adhere to. For our own good, of course.
People call her on her bovine excrement, but she insists:
Can't count the number of times I've heard militant atheists long for religion to be made illegal. After all, from their point of view, spiritual beliefs are all childish delusions and it would be doing a favor to take the purple unicorns away from the silly people who have not reached the lofty state of atheism on their own. They seem to have no idea why any of that would be insulting to others, or perhaps they just don't care since the insulted folks are just braindead religious folks in the first place.
But why wank when you can have an orgy?
 [info]bobdole asks:
The only other group? So militant atheists scare you in this regard but militant Muslims, for example, do not?
The definitions of the words creed and faith need clarification. Religious scientists get their feelings hurt. People get flashbacks of being outraged. The Constitution is invoked. And much, much more for who is willing to rake through the tl;dr and the "quote-marks."
And will somebody think of the non-Abrahamicists?


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[info]limyaael
2007-06-24 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Oh, yes. I actually took to teaching my class logical fallacies for a semester or two because I had waaaay too many who didn't understand the difference between "The Bible says homosexuality is wrong" and "Homosexuality is wrong because the Bible says so."

I've only had one student who publicly identified as an atheist. Guess which one I caught plagiarizing?

Of course, I teach in the Bible Belt, which ups my exposure to crazy Christians. I've finally switched to mostly teaching environmental literature, mostly because a) I want to and b) I'm interested in it, but also c) to avoid students like the Baptists who wanted to write about the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses being cults, and the Mormon who wrote her paper specifically to convert "people who believe in Jesus but haven't seen the truth." (Really, the atheists don't have to beat up Christians; they do a fine job of tearing each other apart).

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-25 03:30 pm UTC (link)
We had an asshole who was Christian in our class on the theory of evolution and its effects on society. He'd sit around and roll his eyes while the teacher talked, then went on about how carbon dating was flawed and the usual young-earth idiotic arguments. It was like the class was some way for him to get information on 'the enemy' or some shit like that.

Then he wrote his paper on how Christianity was the universal base to Darwin's universal acid. God, he was a smug bastard.

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[info]limyaael
2007-06-25 08:52 pm UTC (link)
I can't get along with creationists. With most other brands of Christians, I'm usually willing to live and let live (unless they attack me just for saying I'm atheist, or come to my door and try to convert me), but I've lost two Christian friends because they couldn't accept that I accept evolution, and creationist losers who try to change the school curriculum to outlaw mention of evolution are just...no.

I am glad I did not have to share space with the one you describe. I assume it was a biology class?

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-25 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Sorta-kinda. A mix of sociology and biology, a lot about how the theory of evolution influenced society. Teacher was an atheist, but he wasn't a dick about it like the creationist in my class.

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