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this is not the hamster you're looking for (flightstothesea) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-26 12:47:00


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because i had to post avclub wank sooner or later...
The Onion AV Club now allows comments on most of its articles, interviews, and reviews. You can see where this is going already.

Today's tasty bit of wank is about Tom Cruise and Scientology. Apparently, the German Army won't let Cruise's new movie film on a base there because he's a Scientologist. The German government classifies Scientology as a cult and um... well, I'm not sure how that figures into the movie, but the point is, there is lots of wank in the comments. Unfortunately, you can't link to individual comments, so you'll have to warm up your scroll finger.

Is Scientology a cult?

Are the Germans being just like the Nazis intolerant?

Wait, Beck is a Scientologist?


Posted here because it didn't seem fandom-y enough for Fandom Wank.

Really late edit: Germany clarifies its position on Cruise filming.


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[info]kadath
2007-06-26 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Hee hee. I love how Germany treats those scam artists.

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Some random comments
[info]eilan
2007-06-26 05:11 pm UTC (link)
And the Germans of all people shouldn't have to be reminded that religious persecution is bad.

OMG OUR MILITARY DOESN'T WANT HIM SHOOTING HIS MOVIE HERE!1!!!!1!! NEXT WE WILL START KILLING JEWS AGAIN!!1!!

also, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg? Was there really a guy called that? Who were the other members of the plot? Colonel Klink and Heinz, the Baron Krauss von Espy?

Ignorance FTL. (Of couse his rank wasn't 'Colonel'. It was Oberst. Oberst Claus Philipp Maria Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg.)

It's not about Tom Cruise. It's about tolerance and freedom. Germany has decided not to give a flying fuck about tolerance and freedom.

It's right. I do not tolerate this fucktard.

Who needs the separation of church and state? I hope the US government starts to pick and choose which religions are acceptable. That would be great progress.

I can see its point, you know with allowing people on military property being an issue of separation of church and sta... Oh wait. No, can't see it.

Germany is trying to punish someone for their beliefs. That ain't cool no matter how preposterous those beliefs are.

Now that's just too easy to mock. Challange me, people.


I hereby apologise for the long comment. LJ is giving me error messages and I need something to cling to ;)

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Re: Some random comments
[info]kadath
2007-06-26 05:16 pm UTC (link)
Isn't it awesome when people who have no clue how the German state works start opining about it?

Oh, wait. Did I say "awesome?" I meant "fucking stupid." They're always my fellow Americans, too. :\

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Re: Some random comments
[info]queencallipygos
2007-06-26 05:25 pm UTC (link)
On the one hand, on a purely intellectual level I would disagree with this move on the part of the German government for a couple reasons -- I believe that while Scientology is shady, I don't think we can fault Tom Cruise for actually getting something out of it (hell, unless he tries to force me to use an e-meter, I don't give a toss what Tom Cruise thinks); and the notion of outlawing a religion is generally something I'm a little uneasy about.

On the other, though, I'm...uh, not a member of the German government, so my opinion counts for squat in this issue, and moreover, I don't give a shit. So I'm better served saving my geopolitical ire for something actually WORTH the bother.

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Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-26 05:29 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-26 05:40 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-26 05:45 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-26 05:49 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-26 05:51 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-26 06:29 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-27 04:47 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-27 06:30 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-27 06:32 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]scifantasy, 2007-06-26 10:14 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments
[info]tybalt_quin
2007-06-27 09:54 am UTC (link)
OMG OUR MILITARY DOESN'T WANT HIM SHOOTING HIS MOVIE HERE!1!!!!1!! NEXT WE WILL START KILLING JEWS AGAIN!!1!!

Well, it's obviously a slippery slope that you should be careful of. One minute, you're refusing to let couch-jumping actors come onto your military bases, the next you're invading Poland. Don't you dare deny that this is how the Nazi Party started because you don't know history, I do![/tongue in cheek]

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Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-27 02:24 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]tybalt_quin, 2007-06-27 02:32 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-27 06:31 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-27 10:46 pm UTC
Re: Some random comments - [info]eilan, 2007-06-28 10:04 am UTC
Bring it on! - [info]tybalt_quin, 2007-06-28 10:28 am UTC

[info]hickorydickory
2007-06-26 05:15 pm UTC (link)
Germany: 1
Tom Cruise: 0

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[info]fevered_ego
2007-06-27 01:13 am UTC (link)
Germany? Or... Xenu?

DUN DUN DUNNNNN!

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(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2007-06-27 06:50 pm UTC

[info]seiberwing
2007-06-26 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Additional wank at the rpg.net forums

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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2007-06-26 05:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2007-06-26 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2007-06-26 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-26 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2007-06-26 10:15 pm UTC

[info]cat_mcdougall
2007-06-26 05:33 pm UTC (link)
It's a true testament to how much FMA I've been reading/watching lately because this:

by Guster

Tom's just pissy because he's short.


Immediately became the phrase "Sooo Tom Cruise = Ed Elrich? So... Scientology = Alchemy? Ow. Brain."

I'll just be in my hole.

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(no subject) - [info]sarcastic_elf, 2007-06-27 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pharae, 2007-06-27 01:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 02:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-06-27 05:19 am UTC

[info]chaos_theory
2007-06-26 05:35 pm UTC (link)
Because America is all like "David Koresh wants to make a movie on U.S. military bases? Sure, come on in!!! Here's some guns you can hold!"* and do you know why? Because America, unlike Germany, loves freedom.

*assuming David Koresh wanted to make a movie on American military sites, and had there not been that enormous stand-off and firey inferno of death snafu

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2007-06-26 08:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaos_theory, 2007-06-27 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2007-06-27 05:45 pm UTC

[info]doomsday
2007-06-26 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh Tom, remember when you were sane and people thought you were hot shit? I miss those days, and I have a feeling you do too.

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(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-06-26 06:27 pm UTC

[info]miharu
2007-06-26 06:38 pm UTC (link)
YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF SCIENTOLOGY LIKE I DO!!11

(even though that's probably the valid argument.)

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(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2007-06-26 06:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2007-06-26 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-26 10:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-27 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-27 11:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-27 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-27 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-27 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-27 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-27 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-27 11:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-28 12:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-28 12:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-28 12:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-28 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2007-06-26 06:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2007-06-26 07:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-26 07:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-06-26 08:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 02:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alexielnet, 2007-06-27 03:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 03:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alexielnet, 2007-06-27 04:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 04:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alexielnet, 2007-06-27 04:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lysana, 2007-06-27 08:33 pm UTC

[info]chikane
2007-06-26 09:00 pm UTC (link)
It's not as if this refusal(of letting cruise film on german military property) even matters since he can get the movie filmed anywhere else anyway...

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[info]anarchicq
2007-06-26 09:34 pm UTC (link)
I hope Tom Cruise gets raped by a bee.

I don't know why, but that has got to be the cutest use of the word "bee" EVER!

ISA BEE!

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(no subject) - [info]soupspooks, 2007-06-26 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2007-06-26 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-06-26 10:43 pm UTC
I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]anarchicq, 2007-06-27 01:44 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - flightstothesea, 2007-06-27 01:57 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 02:39 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-27 07:31 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-27 09:52 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-27 09:57 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-27 09:59 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-28 07:56 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-28 11:51 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - flightstothesea, 2007-06-29 12:05 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-29 12:25 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-29 06:06 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-29 11:49 am UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-29 10:09 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-29 10:24 pm UTC
Re: I HATE YOU!!! LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!! YOU'RE A SUPRESSIVE PERSON! - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-06-29 10:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]serai, 2007-06-27 03:31 am UTC

[info]major_fischer
2007-06-26 10:47 pm UTC (link)
Is anyone else a little sad that Cruise is involved in a movie I might want to see?

Anyway, something to remember about this is that there were so few instances of German resistence to the Nazis that the 20th of July plotters (and for that matter the White Rose) are national icons. I think they would be a little touchy about anyone with a sketchy reputation touching either subject. I imagin the Munich city hall wouldn't let a film about Sophie Scholl film if she was being played by Linsay Lohan.

I know I'd hope that the US Department of Defense wouldn't be that helpful in a film on say... George Washington that was funded by oh.. Hugo Chavez? As I recall Cruise and other outspoken scientologists have said some pretty inflamatory things about the German government that really aren't all that far from what Chavez says regularly about the US.

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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-06-27 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]athersgeo, 2007-06-27 07:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]winter, 2007-06-27 11:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]glossing2, 2007-06-27 02:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-27 04:53 pm UTC

[info]scarah2
2007-06-26 11:46 pm UTC (link)
They should have just said they weren't letting him into the country on account of "Being an assclown." I don't think anyone would have argued then.

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(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2007-06-27 07:04 pm UTC

[info]waltraute
2007-06-26 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Angela Merkel: 1

Xenu: 0

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(no subject) - [info]moiety, 2007-06-27 04:50 pm UTC

[info]bemysty
2007-06-27 12:22 am UTC (link)
This will very likely the only time in my whole life I will be able to say I'm proud to have 7/8s of me coming from Germany. Thank you Lord for having thrown some brain matter from the skies today ;_;

(doesn't change the fact I nearly lost my lunch a couple of weeks ago when I walked past an e-meter "demonstration" in the street. I wish Germany was as strict as they portray it to be because then Scientology would REALLY be outlawed and my lunch would stay where it is)

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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2007-06-27 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2007-06-27 12:49 pm UTC

[info]wrenlet
2007-06-27 01:05 am UTC (link)
I can't read anything about $cientology anymore without picturing Tea Leoni shrieking, "WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES? DO YOU KILL BABIES??"

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(no subject) - [info]westmoon, 2007-06-27 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrenlet, 2007-06-27 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-06-27 04:55 pm UTC

[info]ladysphinx
2007-06-27 02:36 am UTC (link)
My mind boggles at the Godwinean implications of comparing Germans to Nazis. WHERE IS YOUR GODWIN NOW???

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(no subject) - [info]anarchicq, 2007-06-27 05:19 am UTC

[info]rennyn_alerothi
2007-06-27 02:37 am UTC (link)
...Hey, if Germany classifies Scientology as a scam/cult, does this mean that Katie Holmes could feasably seek asylum in Germany once she finally decides to Get The Hell Out?

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[info]serai
2007-06-27 03:42 am UTC (link)
The Germans are right about Scientology - it isn't a religion. Lord L.Ron certainly never intended it to become the monster it has; the guy was just looking for some extra bucks 'cause he wasn't making it as a 5-cent-a-word sci-fi writer. He called it a religion in order to get a tax break, and that was his BIG mistake. Religions attract the nutters, especially oddball ones with space aliens and zippo-meters. The guy got trapped and was never able to escape the blood-sucking horde. I've always felt a bit sorry for him, myself. Living a half-mile from the main Scientology center and having worked for a pair of them, I can say from experience that they are the CREEPIEST bunch of whackjobs I've come across in L.A. And that's saying a lot.

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(no subject) - [info]squib, 2007-06-27 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2007-06-27 01:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysphinx, 2007-06-27 02:01 pm UTC

[info]snarkivist
2007-06-27 05:19 am UTC (link)
Poor Beck, the cradle Scientologist.

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[info]belafarinrod
2007-06-27 05:07 pm UTC (link)
If I hadn't read the news about this at work, I would have laughed until I cried. Really

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[info]sharps
2007-06-28 05:43 pm UTC (link)
It didn't seem fandomy enough for fandom_wank?

Hey, do Resistance heroes have a fandom? (Or am I totally interpreting this wrong?) I read Jacques Lusseyran's autobiography and... er... I probably shouldn't say this... but I totally wanted to slash him and his best friend.

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2007-06-28 05:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sharps, 2007-06-28 06:04 pm UTC

 
   
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