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Oxydosic ([info]oxydosic) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-28 22:08:00


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Small, but with no animal abuse (just a little furbashing)
Over on [info]bad_service, [info]tracyluvsya posts about a bad hotel experience with priceline.com. The fun begins when [info]xhappyx posts this:

what is 3 star by American standards is different in various countries. In parts of Africa that I have stayed, just the fact that the hotel has running water and a toilet makes it 3 stars! I have seen far worse and I am sorry you went through this but when booking a hotel room in a 3rd world country you really need to go 4-5 stars to be on the safe side.

People take this to mean that [info]xhappyx thinks Puerto Rico is a third world country and of course, people take issue with it.[info]xhappyx explains that they were referring to Africa, not Puerto Rico. That should be the end of it, right? Wrong!

First, [info]xhappyx tangles with [info]karinalightpaw:

[info]kiranlightpaw: Puerto Rico is HARDLY a third world country, though. It's a territory of the United States.


[info]xhappyx:You need to calm down. Did I say it was a 3rd world country? I mentioned my experience in Africa. Also, just because something is a territory doesn't make it have the same standards as the mainland USA.

But thanks for the geography lesson, I don't know how I ever survived traveling the world 10 times over without some furry pointing out the obvious.



Then, [info]xhappyx gets into it with [info]crazykimmy:

[info]crazykimmy: Wow, you have a severe case of the moron.

Puerto Rico is hardly a third world "country", by any stretch of the imagination. It's an incredibly racist thing to think, and an even more offensive thing to say!


[info]xhappyx: LOL at race card!

If you want to know where the term 3rd world came from

History Lesson

The term third world is a synonym for those nations that aligned themselves with neither the West nor with the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War.

ZOMG!!!! not being aligned with neither the Soviet Bloc or the West is soooooooo racist!


[info]crazykimmy: I'm glad you get all your learningz from stupid_free. It makes you look edumacated.

Just because a term began that way in 1952, does not mean that it's use has been exclusively with that meaning. It can also refer to the amount of human development in an area, and as an extension refer to the development of its infrastructure. Your original comment was not about whether or not, Puerto Rico is affiliated with Russia. You'sd be wrong on that score too. It was about the condition of the hotel being what someone should expect in a third world country--which sounds like you're saying it's underdeveloped. It is not by anyone's standards.

Since it is a Latino country, and has many people of the "brown people" extraction, one has to wonder if you assume all nations of a certain race are just underdeveloped. That would be racist. No card necessary.


[info]xhappyx: I am still lolling at the fact that you are trying really hard to spin this in to a race issue.

Keep it up, and maybe I will get even more attention! I just love all the attention I am getting today.

P.S. my source was the oxford university press dictionary and also wikipedia.

Here is another bit of info for you:

The 2006 Puerto Rico budget crisis was a political, economic, and social crisis that saw much of the government of Puerto Rico shut down after it ran out of funds near the end of the 2005-2006 fiscal year.

Does knowing that Puerto Rico had to shut down from being poor make me racist too?



Please, no furPuerto Rico bashing.


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[info]vigilanterodent
2007-06-29 04:30 am UTC (link)
. . . Is it really such uncommon knowledge that Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory? I think I knew that when I was, like, eight.

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[info]iris
2007-06-29 04:48 am UTC (link)
My parents used to subscribe to New Mexico magazine. The back page of every issue was devoted to readers writing in with their stories about people they met or were trying to order stuff from or whatever who thought that New Mexico was...part of Mexico.

So if people can be that stupid about New Mexico, I'm not surprised they are about Puerto Rico, too.

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[info]vito_excalibur
2007-06-29 04:56 am UTC (link)
Oh God, you're not kidding.

A friend of mine was trying to buy tickets to the Olympics over the phone one time. It all went well until the lady on the phone asked him for his address. When he said "New Mexico," she gently explained to him that he was going to have to go through his embassy to buy the tickets.

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[info]iris
2007-06-29 05:04 am UTC (link)
Something like that is one of the stories I remember reading in there, in fact. XD

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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2007-06-29 05:20 am UTC (link)
A friend of mine was trying to buy tickets to the Olympics over the phone one time. It all went well until the lady on the phone asked him for his address. When he said "New Mexico," she gently explained to him that he was going to have to go through his embassy to buy the tickets.

>.< My brain, it hurts from the stupid.

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[info]littlest_lurker
2007-06-29 05:46 am UTC (link)
...
*facepalm*

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(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-06-29 07:19 pm UTC
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[info]kahrohseh
2007-06-29 06:01 am UTC (link)
I can top that.

My teacher's eldest son once lived in Washington D.C. He was calling to get his passport renewed/something, and the woman asked what state he lived in.

"The District of Columbia."

"Oh, so you're coming from a foreign country?"

"...The DISTRICT of COLUMBIA."

"Yes, that's, Latin America...?"

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(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2007-06-29 08:37 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]amymccabe, 2007-06-29 11:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ara, 2007-06-29 01:35 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-06-29 03:38 pm UTC
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[info]wolfsamurai
2007-06-29 06:02 am UTC (link)
I live in New Mexico and trust me, I've heard things like that ~all~ the time. People asking what international rate for shipping here. People wondering if they need their passport to travel here. Stuff about customs. And so on and so forth. I have to explain that I'm a US citizen a hell of a lot, sadly, and nearly all the people that I have to explain it to are from the US.

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(no subject) - [info]v_digitalwytch, 2007-06-29 02:42 pm UTC
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[info]amymccabe
2007-06-29 11:04 am UTC (link)
OMG, the stupidity!

It is morons like help the "stupid Americans" stereotype grow.

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[info]tephra
2007-06-29 04:55 pm UTC (link)
When I lived in Arizona (Tempe, to be exact) I'd go to the farmers' market in Guadalupe.... You know it's bad when they have to put "NOT MEXICO" on the "Welcome to Guadalupe" sign. *face!palm*

And it's not like it's anywhere close to the border either, it's right smack in the middle of the state!

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[info]mmanurere
2007-06-29 07:30 am UTC (link)
Try telling someone you're from Alaska.

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[info]rachelmap
2007-06-29 08:40 am UTC (link)
Yargh! I just had a flashback to a bad fanfic written by somebody (not a US citizen) who seemed convinced Alaska was not part of the USA. It was a major plot point.

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(no subject) - [info]mooncalf, 2007-06-29 08:48 am UTC
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[info]taktuk
2007-06-30 02:37 am UTC (link)
OK. I'm from Alaska. Barrow, in fact. That wasn't so hard.

My favorite bit was when we were doing penpal things from students in other places, and one of my classmates spun this wonderful tale of having a pet polar bear. This was the same batch of letters where someone asked, "What time do they eat dinner in your country?"

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[info]oxydosic
2007-06-29 12:20 pm UTC (link)
I used to live in New Mexico. We got turned down for a credit card once because they 'didn't issue their card to people outside the United States'.

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[info]queencallipygos
2007-06-29 01:52 pm UTC (link)
My parents used to subscribe to New Mexico magazine. The back page of every issue was devoted to readers writing in with their stories about people they met or were trying to order stuff from or whatever who thought that New Mexico was...part of Mexico.

What's creepy is that only just yesterday I was telling someone else about this very column. "One of our Fifty is Missing," I think they call it.

(I'm not from New Mexico, but I know someone who is.)

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[info]snowden
2007-06-29 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Once in my Spanish class the teacher asked if any one had traveled past the equator. A girl raised her hand and said yes, she'd been to Florida.

...though, to be fair, maybe the girl just couldn't understand Spanish very well. Which would also be pretty sad, come to think of it.

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(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2007-06-29 06:24 pm UTC
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[info]mydemand
2007-06-30 02:56 am UTC (link)
Bahaha! I need a visa to go to Mexico (and one for the US anyway) and I'm glad that no one thought I was there illegally when I was hosted in Albuquerque for a week. Otherwise that would have been a sticky situation. :P

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-06-29 08:48 am UTC (link)
How about my classmates who were mad excited about going to Hawaii, because "they'd never been in a foreign country before?"

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[info]bellona
2007-06-29 03:54 pm UTC (link)
They would get along just great with the elderly Japanese men I met that were convinced Japan had won Hawaii in WWII.

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[info]rekall
2007-06-29 04:42 pm UTC (link)
I'm reminded of >this Penny Arcade comic.

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[info]smo
2007-06-29 05:31 pm UTC (link)
Ha. You should have told them their passports expired and left them there.

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[info]ebneter
2007-06-29 07:41 pm UTC (link)
When I was in grad school, one year we were talking about the fact that our incoming class had, unusually, no foreign students, to which one of my fellow grad students replied, "No, that's not right; Joan's foreign, she's from Hawaii."

I went to Berkeley, by the way... *eye roll*

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dracothelizard
2007-06-29 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I think you can get away with it if you're not from the U.S. itself. Otherwise, it is a bit silly.

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[info]tehrin
2007-06-29 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Puerto Rico: Like that cousin everyone forgets to invite to the wedding or the reunion and only remembers when they show up at the reception.

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[info]rimrunner
2007-07-02 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Somebody at my work asked what state the city of Washington is in.

Now, maybe I'm biased because that's my hometown, but D.C.'s status as a district (I love that the official license plates now say "Taxation without representation", because that is FUNNY) isn't uncommon knowledge, is it?

Is it?

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