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Oxydosic ([info]oxydosic) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-06-28 22:08:00


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Small, but with no animal abuse (just a little furbashing)
Over on [info]bad_service, [info]tracyluvsya posts about a bad hotel experience with priceline.com. The fun begins when [info]xhappyx posts this:

what is 3 star by American standards is different in various countries. In parts of Africa that I have stayed, just the fact that the hotel has running water and a toilet makes it 3 stars! I have seen far worse and I am sorry you went through this but when booking a hotel room in a 3rd world country you really need to go 4-5 stars to be on the safe side.

People take this to mean that [info]xhappyx thinks Puerto Rico is a third world country and of course, people take issue with it.[info]xhappyx explains that they were referring to Africa, not Puerto Rico. That should be the end of it, right? Wrong!

First, [info]xhappyx tangles with [info]karinalightpaw:

[info]kiranlightpaw: Puerto Rico is HARDLY a third world country, though. It's a territory of the United States.


[info]xhappyx:You need to calm down. Did I say it was a 3rd world country? I mentioned my experience in Africa. Also, just because something is a territory doesn't make it have the same standards as the mainland USA.

But thanks for the geography lesson, I don't know how I ever survived traveling the world 10 times over without some furry pointing out the obvious.



Then, [info]xhappyx gets into it with [info]crazykimmy:

[info]crazykimmy: Wow, you have a severe case of the moron.

Puerto Rico is hardly a third world "country", by any stretch of the imagination. It's an incredibly racist thing to think, and an even more offensive thing to say!


[info]xhappyx: LOL at race card!

If you want to know where the term 3rd world came from

History Lesson

The term third world is a synonym for those nations that aligned themselves with neither the West nor with the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War.

ZOMG!!!! not being aligned with neither the Soviet Bloc or the West is soooooooo racist!


[info]crazykimmy: I'm glad you get all your learningz from stupid_free. It makes you look edumacated.

Just because a term began that way in 1952, does not mean that it's use has been exclusively with that meaning. It can also refer to the amount of human development in an area, and as an extension refer to the development of its infrastructure. Your original comment was not about whether or not, Puerto Rico is affiliated with Russia. You'sd be wrong on that score too. It was about the condition of the hotel being what someone should expect in a third world country--which sounds like you're saying it's underdeveloped. It is not by anyone's standards.

Since it is a Latino country, and has many people of the "brown people" extraction, one has to wonder if you assume all nations of a certain race are just underdeveloped. That would be racist. No card necessary.


[info]xhappyx: I am still lolling at the fact that you are trying really hard to spin this in to a race issue.

Keep it up, and maybe I will get even more attention! I just love all the attention I am getting today.

P.S. my source was the oxford university press dictionary and also wikipedia.

Here is another bit of info for you:

The 2006 Puerto Rico budget crisis was a political, economic, and social crisis that saw much of the government of Puerto Rico shut down after it ran out of funds near the end of the 2005-2006 fiscal year.

Does knowing that Puerto Rico had to shut down from being poor make me racist too?



Please, no furPuerto Rico bashing.


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[info]somnambulicious
2007-06-29 03:27 pm UTC (link)
Oops, sorry. I...honestly don't know. My first thought was, "Living in a holler is bad...why?" If there's some colloquialism wherein holler=squalid, it's news to me.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-29 03:34 pm UTC (link)
I've never actually heard it used in anything but hillbilly-parody talk.

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[info]somnambulicious
2007-06-29 03:45 pm UTC (link)
I've heard it a lot, but then, I come from bona fide hillbilly stock. Plus, it's in the lyrics to Woody Guthrie's "Way Over Yonder in the Minor Key" ("I found a little girl in a holler tree.")

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-29 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Me, I live near Oak Ridge. We breed geeks.

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[info]somnambulicious
2007-06-29 04:40 pm UTC (link)
My family's all in southeastern Oklahoma. According to our former governor, we breed illiterate drug addicts. I don't think he'll be invited to any fish fries down there anytime soon.

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[info]blue_penguin
2007-06-29 04:46 pm UTC (link)
I live near Oak Ridge. We breed geeks.

Oak Ridge breeds geeks? That explains my cousins, then.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-29 04:49 pm UTC (link)
We're right next to the national labs, so half the parents of the kids here are scientists. The other half are rednecks.

Give us a few centuries and we'll have two different breeds of humans evolved, or something.

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[info]smo
2007-06-29 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Or geeky rednecks. That would be a h00t.

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[info]ebneter
2007-06-29 07:26 pm UTC (link)
...it would be ... a hoot in a hollar. *Ducks*

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[info]smo
2007-06-30 06:02 am UTC (link)
*rimshot!*

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[info]napalmnacey
2007-07-01 07:17 am UTC (link)
*icon love*

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[info]napalmnacey
2007-07-01 07:17 am UTC (link)
How very Wellian.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-07-01 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Hey, if we turn out like the psychic Morlock from the newer movie, I'm cool with it.

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[info]major_fischer
2007-06-29 08:36 pm UTC (link)
When I lived in Memphis I was always told Oak Ridge breeds fish with three eyes a la the Simpsons. ;)

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[info]blue_penguin
2007-06-29 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I've heard that too. Which would also explain things about the portion of my family which lives there.

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[info]hallidae
2007-07-01 12:43 am UTC (link)
My granddad was an asbestos worker in Oak Ridge in the forties/fifties. He always said they had the brains to make it rain, but not the sense to stay in out of it.

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[info]major_fischer
2007-07-01 02:49 am UTC (link)
My father is a PhD biophysicist... I say this not because i'm bragging but by way of saying he can't pour piss out of a boot with instructions written on the heal.

Brains so rarely equal smarts. Sometime you should read Richard Fienman (I know i mispelled his name)'s book Surely Your Joking. He's a nobel prize winner who worked at Los Alamos during WWII and tells lots of stupid bureaucrazy stories. Including how the tried to point out security problems at Oak Ridge and they decided he might just be a german spy.

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[info]kinneas
2007-06-30 06:51 pm UTC (link)
'Sup, Oak Ridge

-Cookeville

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-30 07:02 pm UTC (link)
*waves at* *glows in the dark*

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[info]kinneas
2007-06-30 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Holy shit, I was trying to find I-40 in Oak Ridge to come back home one time, took the wrong highway by accident, and lots of security people were like GTFO.

:(

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-30 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear, not a good thing. Doesn't help that it's hard to get back on the highway from there.

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[info]dandywolves
2007-06-29 09:22 pm UTC (link)
Man, I'd always wondered when listening to that song what a holler tree was. It makes so much more sense now.

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[info]magnolia_mama
2007-06-29 03:39 pm UTC (link)
Blame Loretta Lynn. Or not really, but to the unejumacated and quick to stereotype, Butcher Hollow can easily stand as representative of all hollers.

There's a highway sign not far outside Salem, Virginia for a place known as "Butt Hollow." Yes, I laugh every time I see it, because I am apparently still 12.

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[info]tofuknight
2007-07-01 12:41 am UTC (link)
And so am I, because that made me snort grapefruit juice up my nose.

Ow. :(

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-29 04:24 pm UTC (link)
"Way down yonder in a holler tree", perhaps.

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