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Vasaris, the Fuzzy Dragon ([info]vasaris) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-07-25 12:33:00


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Entry tags:childfree

How did we get from tattoos to this?
Over on childfree_debate [info]karynthia posts a question regarding whether it's rude to ask to be seated away from the person with the sexually suggestive tattoo because their kids might see it. Most replies involve "er, no, but how stupid is that?" My own response being a bit of the tl;dr, but that's nothing on [info]wight1984.

Beginning with the quite succinct view that the whole notion is rather silly at which [info]karynthia either takes umbrage or sincerely is curious, it's sometimes hard to tell with pixellated voice-tone, we wade into a tsunami of political spooge.

[info]wight1984, not content with her/his/its? belief that s/h/it is right and [info]karynthia is just plain wrong on whether or not making naked women taboo is silly and/or respecting the views of others even though you don't agree is the way to go, continues on and on and on...

No one has the right to be not-offended! The family in question has no right to ask to be seated away from something they find objectionable, nor to try and re-arrange seating so their kids aren't exposed. Behold the power of capitalism at work! If you don't like it just leave! If you do this often enough the owners of the establishment will ban people with tattoos!

Behold! The first of many discussions of how this word does not mean what you think it means! This comes complete with a side order of "What do you mean this idea is classist? Obviously it bears no relation to classism! It's just capitalism at work! I have no problems with rich people being able to unilaterally dictate how businesses function while poor people don't have the money power to do anything about it!"

But wait, There's more! [info]scorpi084 get's in on the act. Nothing, I tell you, nothing good can come from this. Well, actually I kind of find the whole discussion interesting, but, my god, the character-count fairies are out in force.

Again with that word! I do not think it means what you think it means! -- Really, why not? -- This is my definition! -- Your definition sucks and I reject it -- No, your defintion sucks and I reject it.

Let us pause for a brief moment of agreement. Oh! And another with a side order of seasoned curly fries "Let's all be gender equalists because Feminism sucks." and "Clearly you cannot understand me because I hang out with the low brow and the intellectual elite and clearly I understand the world much better than you, dear girl." Is anyone else hearing "Please quit playing in my sandbox, you seem to be pissing on my castle's fortifications!"

[info]wight1984 goes on to break out the dictionary and bemoan the use of the word privlege. I swear, s/h/it and [info]scorpi084 have their ideological trains running with full heads of steam and are shoveling the coal at them frantically in a game of internetz chicken. I wonder who will bail first?

Oh, [info]wight1884, some of your views are actually rather interesting and kind of thought provoking, what a pity you ruin their effect by being a pretentious twat.

Edited to add:
CF_debate is a comm for CF and parents debate/discuss issues involving children, parents, and society -- at least that's what usually shows up. In the main it doesn't generally stir up much wank. The current spoogefest is fairly unusual as the comm goes, overall.

I'd love to say that this is really funny, but mostly it's just chock full of WTF?!?

ETA the second:
The original post that sparked the discussion in question thank you [info]michmatch

ETA the third:
[info]wight1984 continuing to spread the love elsewhere, thank you [info]arabwel. I vote we elect him the TL;DR Wankergizer Bunny. *iz ded from wank*



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[info]atalantapendrag
2007-07-25 08:55 pm UTC (link)
Wait, what? A CFer is bitching because a family with kids wants to be seated away from them?

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[info]ingrid
2007-07-25 09:05 pm UTC (link)
I know! Replace "objectionable tattoo" with "screaming cunt muffins" and I'm not seeing their issue here.

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(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-25 09:27 pm UTC

[info]vasaris
2007-07-25 09:25 pm UTC (link)
No. [info]karynthia has kids. CF_debate is a comm for parents and CF to discuss and debate issues. It's about half and half CF/parent and doesn't generally generate much wank. We're much to civilized, usually.

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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-07-25 09:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2007-07-25 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 12:16 am UTC

[info]mmanurere
2007-07-25 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Let's see if I'm getting wight1884 here: "I'm not classist, I just promote people having access to power according to their market share, which means I promote rich people having more access to power, but that's not classist"? Um...

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[info]vasaris
2007-07-25 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Apparently it's just the power of money at work and s/h/it has no problem with that at all.

It's kind of boggling, which is why I had to share.

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(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2007-07-25 10:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2007-07-26 01:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]demonbean, 2007-07-26 01:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]demonbean, 2007-07-26 01:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 01:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2007-07-26 02:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 03:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 03:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2007-07-26 03:39 am UTC

[info]lysana
2007-07-25 10:13 pm UTC (link)
wight1884 seems to own a boggle cannon. Every time he turns up in a debate somewhere, I find my chin hitting the floor.

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[info]brown_betty
2007-07-27 01:46 am UTC (link)
His icon seems familiar to me, but his name isn't ringing any bells. Where do I know him from?

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[info]vigilanterodent
2007-07-25 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm fascinated by the number of people who don't get that the point of the post wasn't "tell us your thoughts on nudity", it was "tell us your thoughts of the parents' reaction to something they considered inappropriate".

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[info]barankhy
2007-07-25 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Soooo... wanna start the countdown until we get thoughts on nudity here?

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(no subject) - [info]alya1989262, 2007-07-25 11:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2007-07-26 05:26 am UTC

[info]feuillu
2007-07-25 11:21 pm UTC (link)
And a lot of people thinking it was "tell us your thoughts on tattoos."

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[info]squib
2007-07-25 10:25 pm UTC (link)
*is astonished that there's wank involving [info]karynthia and she's not passive-aggressively provoking it*

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[info]smo
2007-07-25 10:45 pm UTC (link)
She kind of is, though. She gave the impression in her initial post that she was open to other ideas, but it seems to me she's pretty much made up her mind already.

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(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2007-07-25 11:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-07-25 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-07-25 11:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-07-25 11:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-07-26 12:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-07-26 12:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]come_love_sleep, 2007-07-27 02:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-07-27 04:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2007-07-27 12:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-07-26 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 02:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2007-07-26 02:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oar, 2007-07-26 12:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2007-07-26 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2007-07-27 12:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2007-07-27 12:33 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-07-26 01:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2007-07-26 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-07-26 08:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2007-07-28 11:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna_hoshino, 2007-07-29 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-07-26 07:35 pm UTC

[info]onaga
2007-07-25 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Oh my god, it's an entire herd of the rare teal deer! Look at them, prancing among the forests of cf_debate, preparing for battle!

Also, I have never understood why anybody would want a naked-lady tattoo. I mean, a pinup I can understand, but why would you want little cartoon nipples?

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(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2007-07-25 10:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2007-07-26 01:41 am UTC
Worse - [info]lexin, 2007-07-26 11:56 am UTC
Re: Worse - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 06:47 pm UTC
Re: Worse - [info]thebratqueen, 2007-07-28 03:20 pm UTC

[info]zyna_kat
2007-07-25 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Wow. The parents in the restaurant, the person with the tattoo, and the restaurant workers all seemed so reasonable about the situation. So different from what happened in that thread....

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-07-25 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachel_pi, 2007-07-26 12:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]michmatch, 2007-07-26 03:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-07-26 04:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 05:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-07-26 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rekall, 2007-07-26 06:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-07-26 06:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rekall, 2007-07-26 06:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 07:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-07-26 07:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 07:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-07-26 08:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 08:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-07-26 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-07-26 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 08:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2007-07-29 12:05 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-07-28 12:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2007-07-28 03:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna_hoshino, 2007-07-29 05:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]michmatch, 2007-07-29 01:05 pm UTC

[info]grrliz
2007-07-26 12:12 am UTC (link)
Hands up: how many people read [info]scorpi084 as Scorpius? *Potter on the brain*

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(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2007-07-26 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ru_debega, 2007-07-26 01:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]magic_lilybean, 2007-07-26 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2007-07-26 01:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]magic_lilybean, 2007-07-26 01:38 am UTC
*raises hand* - [info]bwthree, 2007-07-26 06:18 pm UTC

[info]semtex
2007-07-26 12:48 am UTC (link)
I'd love to say that this is really funny, but mostly it's just chock full of WTF?!?

Not funny wank in otf_wank?
It's more likely than you think.

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(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-07-26 01:07 am UTC

[info]michmatch
2007-07-26 03:44 am UTC (link)
Somebody stop him! He's using up all the words!!

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[info]chaimonkey
2007-07-26 04:24 am UTC (link)
This bit is particularly amusing.

"I'm going to misread not only your comment but also your tone because you zomg used a curse word!"

Special.

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cottenmanifesto is love - [info]goblin, 2007-07-26 01:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brown_betty, 2007-07-27 01:43 am UTC

[info]arabwel
2007-07-26 05:32 am UTC (link)
*shakes head* Anyone else notice Wight continuing the kerfluffle over at Anti_feminist as well? http://community.livejournal.com/anti_feminism/479872.html

I would say I fele obligated to defend him since he IS practically family but he makes it pretty much impossible.

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(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 06:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]arabwel, 2007-07-26 07:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arabwel, 2007-07-26 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2007-07-26 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 06:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-07-26 08:25 pm UTC

[info]omega
2007-07-26 08:15 am UTC (link)
So when are they coming up with the software that allows me to punch people in the face through this, our series of tubes?

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[info]dana
2007-07-26 11:17 am UTC (link)
Oh Karynthia, the last time I had the joy of coming across her work, she's very fond of the phrase 'privilege' which made my teeth go grindy.

It seems to be the catch cry of the great downtrodden masses these days. Or you know, downtrodden masses who can afford a computer.

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superficiality: not just for the unwashed hordes anymore!
[info]goblin
2007-07-26 01:17 pm UTC (link)
[info]wight1984's posts are tl;dr for me, so I'm basing my opinion of him entirely on a)his constant use of the term "uneducated masses" and b)his horrible, horrible facial hair.

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Re: superficiality: not just for the unwashed hordes anymore! - [info]arabwel, 2007-07-26 01:24 pm UTC
Re: superficiality: not just for the unwashed hordes anymore! - [info]goblin, 2007-07-26 01:32 pm UTC
Re: superficiality: not just for the unwashed hordes anymore! - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-07-26 08:36 pm UTC

[info]naeelah
2007-07-26 02:51 pm UTC (link)
No one has the right to be not-offended

What does that even mean?? It's constitutionally mandated that everyone must be offended??

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(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2007-07-26 04:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-26 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]naeelah, 2007-07-26 09:05 pm UTC

[info]txvoodoo
2007-07-27 12:55 am UTC (link)
Who is this Pester person and why do I want to slap them?

"Well by the same token, I think it's tasteless to wear really provocative political t-shirts, or OMG JESUS IS LORD t-shirts. I just think that living in a society of differing perspectives requires a certain amount of polite discretion, and that means not being provocative in the broad sense of the word. Or at the very least, not being surprised if one succeeds in provoking."

from here

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(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-27 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2007-07-27 01:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-27 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2007-07-27 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-27 02:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2007-07-27 02:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-07-27 02:25 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-07-27 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-28 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2007-07-27 10:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2007-07-28 02:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-28 06:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2007-07-28 02:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-28 06:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2007-07-28 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2007-07-29 12:08 am UTC

ravenousbunny
2007-07-28 02:30 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I see our good friend Pester in there. I don't know what annoys me more, her crazy beliefs or how some people will bend over backwards to defend her when she says these stupid ass things.

Also, I never really liked karynthia. I won't get into a whole big list of why, but some of her posts attract two other people that annoy me as well. Again, most people seem to think the three I'm talking about are super special awesome. I don't hate them. They just get on my nerves.

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(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2007-07-28 06:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - ravenousbunny, 2007-07-28 07:19 pm UTC

 
   
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