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snarkivist ([info]snarkivist) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-03 21:52:00


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Entry tags:genderblah

The Vulva Superstar PC Revue
[info]bellasmommy links to a [info]vaginapagina mod post about whether or not everyone who owns a vagina isn't grossly butthurt when it's implied that zhe is a woman.

[info]stupid_free disagrees. For 700 comments, and counting....

Choice bits:

[info]jack_jackrum: Some people who have vaginas are not women, ladies, or girls. I don't see how this is hard to understand. Have you been under a rock for the last 50 years?
[info]freezer818: Seems like overdramatic, oversensitive hair-splitting that will cause more drama than it's meant to prevent. But what do I know, I'm just a lowly man. *crawls back under rock*

[info]pettythiefIn the example the poster gives (paraphrasing) "recommend that women get pap-tests", how do you re-write that sentence so as not to offend people who have a cervix but don't call themselves 'a woman'? Can it be done? What are you supposed to say? "People with a cervix"? "Vagina-sapiens"? Is it fair of the cisgendered people to expect everyone to perform lexical gymnastics when they represent a tiny proportion of the populace? Unless of course there's a disproportionate number in that community, in which case it's a whole different ball-game.


...and, with that, I think I've burned out, since this whole post makes my head ache. Let's pick a pronoun and go with it.

The real problem is with a safe space that's so safe you're not allowed to say anything at all.



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[info]sashenka
2007-08-04 02:51 am UTC (link)
From now on, I'm going to start every post I make anywhere with "Hey, fellow Vagina Enthusiasts!" Especially in Pokemon comms.

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[info]kittikattie
2007-08-04 03:35 am UTC (link)
Reminds me of a person in a long running abortion debate who, anytime someone on the pro-choice side would emntion that not every woman wants to be pregnant at the exact time they concieve or would talk about health problems for pregnant women, or jsut anywhere say "women" used to pop up EVERY TIME and e-scream that X was X (X refers to X by X's nickname, so that's the only pronoun for X because X has no gender and X likes it that way and hates the word "zie"). And X was certainly NOT not a woman, and X was able to get pregnant because X had a vagina, and though X was with Y and Y was a man he had a vag so he couldn't get X pregnant, so stop talking about just women needing abortions, because X might need one and X was certainly not a woman, and if you are oppressing X, and X's right to be open minded, and you were a closed minded freak who hated anyone outside gender binary of male and female.

EVERY. Time. You could say "women aren't breeding machines" and X would scream about how you had not mentioned X specifically. You could say "a woman shouldn't be a mother til she wants to be" and X'd whine that you weren't talking about X. You could bloody say "As a woman, I want to have control over my own body." and X would just fap fap fap away about how you'd left X out again and how you always leave X out when you talk about abortion and clearly you do this because YOU HATE X. I finally got annoyed and quit posting because I am not going to change every post I make about abortion to say "Women (and FTM and the androgynous, and the queer and the genderfluid and the X and the other Y and everyone with an innie instead of an outie....)"

I am going to be mean. IF YOU DON'T ID AS A WOMAN, CHANCES ARE YOU WILL NOT BE GETTING PREGGY, OR YOU WILL END IT SOON AFTER. PLZ TO NOT MAKE WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ABOUT YOU ALONE YOU GODDAMN BITCH.

(I also hate X because X thinks that pedophilia is okay and to protest against people saying they want to groom young children for sexual activity and that people are ready to be "touched" at birth, and that pushes a major button of mine because EW EW ICK ICK NASTY PLZ DIE IN A FIRE.)

*Teal Deer herd runs by*

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[info]mmanurere
2007-08-04 03:52 am UTC (link)
Gender wank always comes close to making me embarrassed about my raging womb envy and general male un-man-ness.

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-08-05 08:11 am UTC

[info]barankhy
2007-08-04 03:56 am UTC (link)
Oh god, there's [info]skepticultist. Where is my "Setting People On Fire Via The Internet" machine?

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[info]rowan
2007-08-04 04:07 am UTC (link)
AHAHAHA. The mental image of Jack Jackrum saying that is 100% awesome. I approve.

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[info]tehrin
2007-08-04 04:33 am UTC (link)
To clarify (rather than delete), if you don't identify as a woman, why the hell are you in a community that is all about women's issues?

I wasn't aware that you had to be a woman (or identify as one) to care about women's issues.

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Get funky. - wolfie_thu, 2007-08-05 06:07 am UTC
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[info]omega
2007-08-04 04:42 am UTC (link)
Wank? In [info]stupid_free? It's more likely than you think! And usually it's fucking stupid.

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truth in advertising? - [info]squib, 2007-08-04 08:47 am UTC
Re: truth in advertising? - [info]red_eft, 2007-08-04 07:47 pm UTC

[info]arionhunter
2007-08-04 05:29 am UTC (link)
otf, there are days I love you. You send me horse-fucking men to sit on my nightstand, flowers of wank that bloom gloriously with the rising stupid quotient.

This is not one of those days.

And I would say to such disheartened not-women "Put on your big girl grown-up panties and deal."

You want a U-Haul for all that privilege?

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[info]luthe
2007-08-04 06:39 am UTC (link)
Vaginae: not just for female-identified women anymore!

...and by that, I mean *facepalm*.

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[info]red_eft
2007-08-04 06:46 am UTC (link)
I'm... not sure why it's so difficult to say "people with vaginas," actually.

I'm moderately amused at the fact that people on stupid_free are making a way bigger deal over this than, say, the community it's affecting- the responses on VP are all positive- but only moderately. Mostly it's just depressing. :/

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[info]michmatch
2007-08-04 06:52 am UTC (link)
Call me crazy, but I think maybe part of the problem is that their user info says, "Founded in 2001, vaginapagina is a body-positive, progressive community that is all about vaginas, vulvas and other stuff that relates to women's bodies, health and wellbeing."

That sort of implies that vagina owners are women, but I'm sure it's easier to make a lot of mod posts than to change that. And wow that has to be one of the longest set of 'read this before posting' FAQs I've ever seen.

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[info]chili_power
2007-08-04 11:45 am UTC (link)
Just a thought ... but are those people also offended by tampons, pads etc. labeled as "female hygiene products"?

Also, it seems to be "ogod I want off this planet" week, concerning f_w and otf_w

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(no subject) - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-08-04 02:07 pm UTC
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Icon - [info]khym_chanur, 2007-08-04 09:25 pm UTC
Re: Icon - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-08-05 07:21 pm UTC
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iwanttobeasleep
2007-08-04 02:15 pm UTC (link)
Not funny, but it fills me with glee to see people disagreeing with Bellasmommy and her asinine stupid_free posts.

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(no subject) - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-08-05 07:22 pm UTC

dracothelizard
2007-08-04 04:05 pm UTC (link)
I hope all the people who're insulted by the implication that having a vagina makes you female are also raging against ladies'/women's toilets.

"Essentially, there's a concern that when VPers start off their posts with something like "hey, girls" or "hey, ladies," it can be alienating to readers who don't identify as girls or as ladies."

Oh no, we can't possibly address a community by the gender of the majority of its members. And how many people would complain about "hey, guys" at the start of a post?

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Re: Your icon - [info]heddychaa, 2007-08-07 08:08 pm UTC
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OT
[info]prettypinkkitty
2007-08-04 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Your icon gives me hours of joy!

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[info]eljuno
2007-08-04 07:47 pm UTC (link)
recommend that women get pap-tests", how do you re-write that sentence so as not to offend people who have a cervix but don't call themselves 'a woman'? Can it be done? What are you supposed to say?

'Hey. If you've got a cervix, it could get cancer. Get a pap smear.'

WAS THAT SO HARD?

This was my one burst of unfunny and I shall now return to being unfunny on my own time.

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(no subject) - [info]feloniousfeline, 2007-08-04 08:14 pm UTC
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[info]panthea
2007-08-05 12:20 am UTC (link)
I am so very, very confused.

Not about the transgender thing; I get that. What confuses me is how you get from there to "OMG you assume I'm a woman just because I have a vagina! HOW DARE YOU SIR AND/OR MA'AM."

I mean, isn't that the sort of thing that just comes with the territory? Like having a last name that's really hard to pronounce? Sure, it's really fucking annoying the millionth time someone calls and horribly mangles my name, but you get used to it eventually. I'm not about to bitch out complete strangers just because they somehow fail at Arabic pronunciation.

Shit, I'm gonna start telling people I'm really an octopus. Isn't it obvious?

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(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2007-08-05 01:04 am UTC
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[info]drworm
2007-08-05 04:17 am UTC (link)
Is it fair of the cisgendered people to expect everyone to perform lexical gymnastics when they represent a tiny proportion of the populace?

LOL, doesn't know what cisgendered means.

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(no subject) - [info]jerry_ds_girl, 2007-08-05 05:25 am UTC
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iwanttobeasleep
2007-08-05 05:07 am UTC (link)
I hate this wank. Even the attempts at funny are obnoxious because gender queer people have really tough lives and making fun of them for being oversensitive is terrible.

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(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2007-08-06 06:45 pm UTC

[info]azhidahaki
2007-08-05 08:38 am UTC (link)
Just to be on the safe side, I think I'll start referring to people as "Hey, you." That way no one is left out.

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2007-08-05 01:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2007-08-05 03:48 pm UTC

[info]eso_si_que
2007-08-05 07:39 pm UTC (link)
Vulva superstar--
that is what you are.


That's all I got.

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(no subject) - [info]drhenryjekyll, 2007-08-05 09:55 pm UTC

tree
2007-08-06 12:10 pm UTC (link)
What I love best about this whole thing is that when "hi guys" or anything male-default is used, it's linguistic oppression, yet when the opposite is done, somebody automatically cries "OMG think of the MENZ!"; I just don't get people.

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(no subject) - redwarrior, 2007-08-06 10:53 pm UTC
Call me stupid...
redwarrior
2007-08-06 10:53 pm UTC (link)
...but I don't see the draw of a community celebrating the female genitalia for FtM's. How am I supposed to like genitalia that I feel like I'm borrowing off of someone else?

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Re: Call me stupid... - [info]snarkivist, 2007-08-06 10:54 pm UTC
Re: Call me stupid... - [info]heddychaa, 2007-08-07 08:03 pm UTC
Re: Call me stupid... - [info]luna_hoshino, 2007-08-07 11:19 pm UTC

[info]serai
2007-08-07 03:53 am UTC (link)
Is it just me, or is there something vaguely creepy about the idea of "owning" a vagina? It sounds like they're talking about gold-plated teaspoons, for gods' sakes.

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[info]andra_dodger
2007-08-21 03:00 am UTC (link)
"females should get annual pap smears"

OMG, that was sooooo hard. I think I need to rest now.

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