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snarkivist ([info]snarkivist) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-03 21:52:00


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The Vulva Superstar PC Revue
[info]bellasmommy links to a [info]vaginapagina mod post about whether or not everyone who owns a vagina isn't grossly butthurt when it's implied that zhe is a woman.

[info]stupid_free disagrees. For 700 comments, and counting....

Choice bits:

[info]jack_jackrum: Some people who have vaginas are not women, ladies, or girls. I don't see how this is hard to understand. Have you been under a rock for the last 50 years?
[info]freezer818: Seems like overdramatic, oversensitive hair-splitting that will cause more drama than it's meant to prevent. But what do I know, I'm just a lowly man. *crawls back under rock*

[info]pettythiefIn the example the poster gives (paraphrasing) "recommend that women get pap-tests", how do you re-write that sentence so as not to offend people who have a cervix but don't call themselves 'a woman'? Can it be done? What are you supposed to say? "People with a cervix"? "Vagina-sapiens"? Is it fair of the cisgendered people to expect everyone to perform lexical gymnastics when they represent a tiny proportion of the populace? Unless of course there's a disproportionate number in that community, in which case it's a whole different ball-game.


...and, with that, I think I've burned out, since this whole post makes my head ache. Let's pick a pronoun and go with it.

The real problem is with a safe space that's so safe you're not allowed to say anything at all.



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[info]tehrin
2007-08-04 03:57 pm UTC (link)
When those issues are generally of a biological sort, it would tend to help, I would think. (Perhaps I could've phrased that more clearly, but oh well)

So, if the issues become about ye holy pussy, you're supposed to flee in terror if your male? I thought you guys loved vaginas.

Maybe they're in gynocology. There are many explainations as to why men would join that community.

And I can see how ladies can be offensive if not every member of the community considers their gender to be female. Or if you think of what , traditionally, a lady was back in the day. But, yeah, it doesn't merit a huge bruhaha as most people mean it in a totally respectful way.

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[info]tehrin
2007-08-04 04:11 pm UTC (link)
By what a lady was back in the day, I mean someone of status, not expected to do much for a living other than go about in society and manage the household.

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