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snarkivist ([info]snarkivist) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-03 21:52:00


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The Vulva Superstar PC Revue
[info]bellasmommy links to a [info]vaginapagina mod post about whether or not everyone who owns a vagina isn't grossly butthurt when it's implied that zhe is a woman.

[info]stupid_free disagrees. For 700 comments, and counting....

Choice bits:

[info]jack_jackrum: Some people who have vaginas are not women, ladies, or girls. I don't see how this is hard to understand. Have you been under a rock for the last 50 years?
[info]freezer818: Seems like overdramatic, oversensitive hair-splitting that will cause more drama than it's meant to prevent. But what do I know, I'm just a lowly man. *crawls back under rock*

[info]pettythiefIn the example the poster gives (paraphrasing) "recommend that women get pap-tests", how do you re-write that sentence so as not to offend people who have a cervix but don't call themselves 'a woman'? Can it be done? What are you supposed to say? "People with a cervix"? "Vagina-sapiens"? Is it fair of the cisgendered people to expect everyone to perform lexical gymnastics when they represent a tiny proportion of the populace? Unless of course there's a disproportionate number in that community, in which case it's a whole different ball-game.


...and, with that, I think I've burned out, since this whole post makes my head ache. Let's pick a pronoun and go with it.

The real problem is with a safe space that's so safe you're not allowed to say anything at all.



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[info]red_eft
2007-08-05 01:16 am UTC (link)
"OMG you assume I'm a woman just because I have a vagina! HOW DARE YOU SIR AND/OR MA'AM."

...but... there was no bitching! It was a polite request, in a community that the person requesting it was an active part of, and that tries to be aware of these things. There wasn't any outrage in VP itself, just in stupid_free. It's less like bitching out complete strangers who mangle your name, and more like asking someone who uses your name a lot to pronounce it correctly. And then they say "Okay, sorry!" and then someone who overhears your conversation goes on and on about how oversensitive you are.

Sorry. That metaphor got away from me, and also was distinctly lacking in amusement. Here, have some dating advice from the fifties.

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[info]panthea
2007-08-05 01:45 am UTC (link)
In that case, apologies and a retraction. Yeah, I skip the links sometimes. They just tend to depress me.

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[info]freezer
2007-08-05 03:11 am UTC (link)
Sad part is, one of my coworkers talks just like Mick from that film...

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