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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-07 21:01:00


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Entry tags:lj

This won't end well.
LJ FINALLY speaks.

It's already got a troll in writerspleasure, calling all the people posting serious questions/comments "whiners" and four(!) pages of comments so far.

Highlights in the post include a fauxpology for burr86's wanky comments, LJ still doesn't understand that Federal law doesn't cover depictions of fictional children in sexual situations and a lot of re-stating what they've said before.

Edit: Well, this is an interesting revelation. Actually, there are several members of various fandom communities involved on the review board, as well as the Abuse Prevention Team itself.

And this list of official statements made by LJ staff in the "clarification" lj_biz post should bear watching.

Edit 2: coffeechica is talking with LJ users in stupid_free here. Odds on how long before it gets deleted? Anyone? Anyone? ...Bueller?

...and LJ/6A employees can't even come up with their own boilerplate responses, because rachel (she of the icon where she's posing with a big glass of beer) plagarized a LJ user's comment to use as her own.

Oh, and the lj_biz post has maxed out at 5000 comments in about sixteen hours, which is a new record, I believe. People are going back to the previous lj_biz post to leave comments there, I think.

Edit 3: Godwin's was reached on page 17 of the lj_biz post. (Thanks to [info]khym_chanur for the link.)

The current lj_biz post has made cNet.

The whole thing has been covered by German news magazine Der Spiegel. And a translation. (Thanks to [info]airborne_rodent for those links.)

Slashdot covers it, too. As does Digg. (Thanks to [info]utahraptor for the Digg link.)

Edit 4: Our own [info]cat_mcdougall wrote up a semi-editorial article here. As she says, the "Fandome" is them editing my article.




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[info]miraba
2007-08-08 05:56 pm UTC (link)
5000 comments have been reached.

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[info]airborne_rodent
2007-08-08 06:17 pm UTC (link)
It's on cnet...

...and Der Spiegel.

Translation of the Der Spiegel article.

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[info]hangingfire
2007-08-08 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Articles like this make me think fandom is coming up for its "furries on CSI" moment. You know, where suddenly the rest of the mainstream world discovers that ZOMG, people are making pr0n about beloved childrens' books/favorite TV shows/popular movies/etc.

When it really hits the mainstream, fandom had better have a secure bunker to hide in.

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[info]pyratejenni
2007-08-08 07:34 pm UTC (link)
Too many won't. They'll think the fireworks are in celebration of them.

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[info]hangingfire
2007-08-08 08:02 pm UTC (link)
This is probably true, sadly.

And by the way, that is a lovely icon.

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2007-08-09 03:51 am UTC

[info]grrliz
2007-08-08 10:55 pm UTC (link)
fandom is coming up for its "furries on CSI" moment.

OMG I'm still scarred from that episode. o_O

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-08-08 11:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but what? Did they send the furries to Gitmo? Are there Furry Jim Crow laws?

Or is it just one of those slightly squicky hobbies that outsiders laugh at?

People already know about fic writers, and the idea of HP porn has made it as far into the mainstream consciousness as the Daily Show.

The further this gets the more the news is going to be about LJ- 6A pulling legal definitions out of their asses, and trying to run a real-world business with no understanding of consumer law or customer relations. If they try to spin it as a search for pedophiles, the actual identities of the women they banned are going to count against them more than the (totally squick-worthy) drawings they made.

Let us not develop colorful fantasies about the time of burning, shall we?

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[info]limyaael
2007-08-08 11:53 pm UTC (link)
Thank you.

The hysteria against fandom is starting to sound as "End Times" worthy as the hysteria of fandom itself.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2007-08-09 12:50 am UTC (link)
the idea of HP porn has made it as far into the mainstream consciousness as the Daily Show

Really? Any possibility of a link to a video?

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-08-09 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2007-08-09 01:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-08-09 03:50 am UTC

[info]utahraptor
2007-08-09 01:10 am UTC (link)
http://digg.com/business_finance/LiveJournal_supports_pro_anorexia_groups/all

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anne_o_nymous
2007-08-08 08:46 pm UTC (link)
What's the deal with the "report abuse button"? Is that a real possibility, or was someone just conjecturing about what could happen in the future? (Because I keep seeing it mentioned as if LJ has actually promised/threatened it, and I don't see any actual mention of it by LJ.)

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[info]nine_spiral
2007-08-08 09:22 pm UTC (link)
It is there, if you use the default site scheme. At the bottom of all the pages where all the site links are. I use XColibur so didn't notice till someone pointed it out.

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anne_o_nymous
2007-08-08 11:55 pm UTC (link)
That's just a link to the "report abuse" form- it doesn't directly report that particular post (which is the impression I got from how people were talking). You still have to go through the same process you always did, I guess I don't see how slightly easier access to the abuse form infringes on anyone.

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[info]nine_spiral
2007-08-09 05:13 am UTC (link)
*reminds self to change e-mail on account so she actually receives comment notifications*

Anyway. I see! I don't think it infringes on anyone either.

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[info]nine_spiral
2007-08-09 05:14 am UTC (link)
Huh. My e-mail address is actually up-to-date. Have we never received e-mail notification of comments? XD;;; *doesn't use her JF much*

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[info]nekoama
2007-08-08 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Man, the lj_biz page keeps crashing my window. What the hell.
Anyway, my prediction is that this'll end with Fandom leaving, making it's own porny fandom journally site, LJ being left to the rest of the internet and everybody happy.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2007-08-08 09:53 pm UTC (link)
I'm hoping it'll end with someone suing LJ over the pro-ana comms it's insisting aren't harmful. But that's probably just me being a vindictive bitch.

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[info]inkstone
2007-08-08 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Well, there's always this.

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[info]nekoama
2007-08-08 10:14 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, me too. For the most part I care little about the whole buggaloo, but the pro_ana shit has my hackles raised.

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[info]lostmahmarbles
2007-08-08 11:05 pm UTC (link)
The sad part is how the pro_ana communities aren't the only horrible thing people have found :/

Reposted so it doesn't sound like I'm making light of the pro_ana communities

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[info]katarin
2007-08-08 11:23 pm UTC (link)
LOUD NOISES!

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[info]lil_miss_stfu
2007-08-09 06:25 am UTC (link)
Damn, I don't suppose anyone got a copy of [info]anildash's rant? Me wants to see :(

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[info]ladyofviolets
2007-08-09 11:52 am UTC (link)
Those who want BOTH sides to die in a fire, raise your hands. >:O

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[info]azhidahaki
2007-08-09 02:07 pm UTC (link)
* raises hand *

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Can I toot my own horn?
[info]cat_mcdougall
2007-08-09 02:06 pm UTC (link)
Just a little? I have written a semi-editorial article about it here (the "Fandome" is them editing my article.) If not, feel free to mock away

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