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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-07 21:01:00


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Entry tags:lj

This won't end well.
LJ FINALLY speaks.

It's already got a troll in writerspleasure, calling all the people posting serious questions/comments "whiners" and four(!) pages of comments so far.

Highlights in the post include a fauxpology for burr86's wanky comments, LJ still doesn't understand that Federal law doesn't cover depictions of fictional children in sexual situations and a lot of re-stating what they've said before.

Edit: Well, this is an interesting revelation. Actually, there are several members of various fandom communities involved on the review board, as well as the Abuse Prevention Team itself.

And this list of official statements made by LJ staff in the "clarification" lj_biz post should bear watching.

Edit 2: coffeechica is talking with LJ users in stupid_free here. Odds on how long before it gets deleted? Anyone? Anyone? ...Bueller?

...and LJ/6A employees can't even come up with their own boilerplate responses, because rachel (she of the icon where she's posing with a big glass of beer) plagarized a LJ user's comment to use as her own.

Oh, and the lj_biz post has maxed out at 5000 comments in about sixteen hours, which is a new record, I believe. People are going back to the previous lj_biz post to leave comments there, I think.

Edit 3: Godwin's was reached on page 17 of the lj_biz post. (Thanks to [info]khym_chanur for the link.)

The current lj_biz post has made cNet.

The whole thing has been covered by German news magazine Der Spiegel. And a translation. (Thanks to [info]airborne_rodent for those links.)

Slashdot covers it, too. As does Digg. (Thanks to [info]utahraptor for the Digg link.)

Edit 4: Our own [info]cat_mcdougall wrote up a semi-editorial article here. As she says, the "Fandome" is them editing my article.



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[info]khym_chanur
2007-08-08 03:02 am UTC (link)

Gah! This type of post is really bugging me:

"b. Content that encourages or advocates hate crimes, the abuse of children in any form, or rape, even if the content itself is not illegal and may be protected by the First Amendment. This portion of the policy reflects the especially reprehensible nature of these activities; users who encourage or advocate these acts, regardless of their motivation, are simply not welcome on LiveJournal." As someone said before, thank you for at least admitting that the content was deleted not because it broke laws but because it offended corporate preferences.

Re-read it, you moron! It says "This portion of the policy reflects the especially reprehensible nature of these activities;", not "all portions".

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[info]hallidae
2007-08-08 04:06 am UTC (link)
encourages or advocates hate crimes

So why are the venom-filled supremacist comms still around? I noticed LJ doesn't seem to give a shit about getting rid of them.

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[info]khym_chanur
2007-08-08 04:10 am UTC (link)
Some combination of 1) the journals/communities not being reported, and 2) LJ hiring morons for its abuse staff.

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[info]hallidae
2007-08-08 04:26 am UTC (link)
I don't know about others, but I know I've reported one myself (that since folded and vanished on its own because the posters moved on to other pastures), and I got told that unless they were actively causing illegal activity (actually planning assaults and such, not just fantasizing and slapping each other on the back about how much they'd love to curbstomp every gay guy they came across), there was nothing to warrant them getting busted. So I'm thinking option 2, mostly, and by God, I wish I hadn't deleted the response back then. It would have made such nice ammo now.

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[info]darkrose
2007-08-08 06:27 am UTC (link)
Yup. I reported a racist comm once and was told that unless they made specific threats against me personally, I didn't have standing to make a complaint.

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[info]hallidae
2007-08-08 06:59 am UTC (link)
That one wasn't in my response, but I've heard it from others. Even if you specifically are being harassed, if you don't provide links to the exact posts/comments, or the person deletes them to cover their ass, you're SOL.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2007-08-08 11:47 am UTC (link)
It's beautiful, isn't it?

A young lady i know who was being stalked and harassed by some fall-down fuck was told, verbatim, "Not everyone on LJ has to like you."

Then my brain vomited.

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[info]hallidae
2007-08-08 11:56 am UTC (link)
See, now this is the shit that's pissing me off.

Racism/Sexism? Not happening to you specifically, tough fucknuggets.
Being harassed/stalked? Oh, poor widdle oversensitive baby.
Shit designed to show girls how to starve themselves? Hey, it's their bodies, their business.

Fictional porn that might depict someone underage or not have "artistic merit"? OMGthinkofthechildrunzBANHAMMER!

Bravo, LJ. Bravo.

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[info]kermit_the_sock
2007-08-09 06:09 am UTC (link)
Well, what was Abuse supposed to do about it? Did she contact the police? What did they do?

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