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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-07 21:01:00


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Entry tags:lj

This won't end well.
LJ FINALLY speaks.

It's already got a troll in writerspleasure, calling all the people posting serious questions/comments "whiners" and four(!) pages of comments so far.

Highlights in the post include a fauxpology for burr86's wanky comments, LJ still doesn't understand that Federal law doesn't cover depictions of fictional children in sexual situations and a lot of re-stating what they've said before.

Edit: Well, this is an interesting revelation. Actually, there are several members of various fandom communities involved on the review board, as well as the Abuse Prevention Team itself.

And this list of official statements made by LJ staff in the "clarification" lj_biz post should bear watching.

Edit 2: coffeechica is talking with LJ users in stupid_free here. Odds on how long before it gets deleted? Anyone? Anyone? ...Bueller?

...and LJ/6A employees can't even come up with their own boilerplate responses, because rachel (she of the icon where she's posing with a big glass of beer) plagarized a LJ user's comment to use as her own.

Oh, and the lj_biz post has maxed out at 5000 comments in about sixteen hours, which is a new record, I believe. People are going back to the previous lj_biz post to leave comments there, I think.

Edit 3: Godwin's was reached on page 17 of the lj_biz post. (Thanks to [info]khym_chanur for the link.)

The current lj_biz post has made cNet.

The whole thing has been covered by German news magazine Der Spiegel. And a translation. (Thanks to [info]airborne_rodent for those links.)

Slashdot covers it, too. As does Digg. (Thanks to [info]utahraptor for the Digg link.)

Edit 4: Our own [info]cat_mcdougall wrote up a semi-editorial article here. As she says, the "Fandome" is them editing my article.



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Re: ah, here it is
[info]crickets
2007-08-08 03:36 am UTC (link)
Yes, there's been a lot of talk about that one, and I wish somebody would nail them with it. Comments in scattered comms do not count as "TOS updates." Even this last post doesn't really count, as it's my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong, somebody) that the actual wording of the TOS itself is unchanged. LJ/6A really is faildriving the failbus to Failtonia right now.

From your prior link:
exercising editorial control over user content isn't a slippery slope, it's a sheer cliff

I see Wile E. Coyote hanging in midair, clutching a tiny umbrella in one hand and sadly waving with the other. *whoosh*...........*pow* There's nothing but a small puff of dust cloud far below.

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Re: ah, here it is
[info]soleta
2007-08-08 04:04 am UTC (link)
I reread the court case I linked to up above, and it specifically states that it deals with the contract between company and user. Livejournal/6Apart has very neatly dodged that ruling by refusing to change the Terms of Service. in my opinion, this is exactly why they're not changing the TOS - they can't get slammed by a ruling that has nothing to do with them.

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Re: ah, here it is
[info]crickets
2007-08-08 04:15 am UTC (link)
See, that's the thing. They're refusing to change the wording to reflect actual changes in the terms and they way they plan to enforce them. IANAL and maybe I'm using too strong a word, but it strikes me as fraudulent, or disingenuous at the very least. It's bad business.

[offering thoughts on yaoi, likely preaching to choir]

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Re: ah, here it is
[info]mmanurere
2007-08-08 06:54 am UTC (link)
Yay "Alice's Restaurant"! Icon love!

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Re: ah, here it is
[info]crickets
2007-08-08 09:49 pm UTC (link)
Danke! It's not really Thanksgiving until "Alice's Restuarant" plays on the radio. I adore Arlo.

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Re: ah, here it is
[info]evilsqueakers
2007-08-09 05:38 pm UTC (link)
Especially since they're upholding the users to something they don't know about. Future users beware.

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