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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-08-07 21:01:00


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Entry tags:lj

This won't end well.
LJ FINALLY speaks.

It's already got a troll in writerspleasure, calling all the people posting serious questions/comments "whiners" and four(!) pages of comments so far.

Highlights in the post include a fauxpology for burr86's wanky comments, LJ still doesn't understand that Federal law doesn't cover depictions of fictional children in sexual situations and a lot of re-stating what they've said before.

Edit: Well, this is an interesting revelation. Actually, there are several members of various fandom communities involved on the review board, as well as the Abuse Prevention Team itself.

And this list of official statements made by LJ staff in the "clarification" lj_biz post should bear watching.

Edit 2: coffeechica is talking with LJ users in stupid_free here. Odds on how long before it gets deleted? Anyone? Anyone? ...Bueller?

...and LJ/6A employees can't even come up with their own boilerplate responses, because rachel (she of the icon where she's posing with a big glass of beer) plagarized a LJ user's comment to use as her own.

Oh, and the lj_biz post has maxed out at 5000 comments in about sixteen hours, which is a new record, I believe. People are going back to the previous lj_biz post to leave comments there, I think.

Edit 3: Godwin's was reached on page 17 of the lj_biz post. (Thanks to [info]khym_chanur for the link.)

The current lj_biz post has made cNet.

The whole thing has been covered by German news magazine Der Spiegel. And a translation. (Thanks to [info]airborne_rodent for those links.)

Slashdot covers it, too. As does Digg. (Thanks to [info]utahraptor for the Digg link.)

Edit 4: Our own [info]cat_mcdougall wrote up a semi-editorial article here. As she says, the "Fandome" is them editing my article.



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[info]limyaael
2007-08-08 03:46 am UTC (link)
You know what? I think they're honestly trying.

It's the fact that they try and still continue to fail so hard (not to mention that they have time to sit around seriously debating the "artistic merit" of internet porn pictures but not enough time to look at pro-anorexia communities to decide if they're dangerous) that makes me not trust them. I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think it's sucky customer service, combined with an absolute inability to communicate (and probably failing grades in whatever level of writing education they advanced to).

Yes, fandom is being wanky and sucky, too. But fandom isn't whom I'd be paying for an account. This clinches my decision to not return to paid status about ever.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2007-08-08 11:52 am UTC (link)
You are amazing, and have encompassed in one succinct post what my huge flailing issue with the 6A/LJ crew is right now.

I've seen BBS systems staffed by mercurial teenage girls prone to regular and virulent HISSYFIT EPICS run more professionally than this. Which - yeah.

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[info]catslash
2007-08-09 12:20 am UTC (link)
Thank you! This has been precisely my issue all along. LJ/6A can make whatever policies they please and I don't mind because it's their damn companies, but when they bollocks the entire thing up as badly as they have, that is when I get mad. I hate to see customers get mistreated because indifference and ineptitude. I have no interest whatsoever in giving my money to a bunch of morons who don't care enough to pull it together and start treating their customers in a manner that suggests that they would like us to stick around. It's a relief to see someone else pointing this out in lieu of wailing about the First Amendment or whatever.

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[info]limyaael
2007-08-09 12:22 am UTC (link)
It's the reason I decided not to update my LJ anymore. I have no freaking clue how much I can trust them. Maybe I'd be all right even if I had a paid account still, maybe I wouldn't, but...who can tell? I can't, and it's stressing me out. I don't like being stressed out= I'm moving.

I agree that the claims of First Amendment violation and so on are completely ridiculous. It's LJ, not the government of any country, even an extremely small and wanky one. And if other people want to stay there, hey, their decision. But their handling of the entire situation is a nightmare for me. Fandom is laughable in its noisier incarnations; LJ is just disgusting.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2007-08-09 05:52 pm UTC (link)
I don't update my journal because I know I can't trust them to not delete it. They're acting like surly, angry teenagers that didn't get the car for the night, so they're make everyone miserable in the process. At least that's how I look at it.

That and I'm tired of the wank in my journal over something I said about the pro-ana comms that give advice sucking and they should go. And then someone goes "but they can help!" I'm worried that's been talking to [info]coffeechica, actually.

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