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Auntie Singe Addams ([info]singe) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2007-09-22 11:45:00


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Entry tags:food, godwin's, jokes that don't go over well, racism

You got your racism in my coffee! You got your coffee in my racism!
[info]evilgrins delivered a list of bogus food terms to the [info]food_porn community which was kind of amusing but the last definition...

arab coffee: Thick, black, bitter coffee, traditionally served in tiny cups at gunpoint.

...really inspired some, uh, debate.

[info]likeawoman is accused of being likeatroll for staying determinedly offended by everyone but [info]obfuscate brings up Godwins first. "If you replace "arab coffee" with "matzo" is it an insult to Jews? "Haggis" (I hear it's good, but what the hell.. who came up with that?), and it's a comment on how violent those damn Scots are? Put "borscht" in there and you're pissing on the Slavs? "Liverwurst" would then, I suppose, mean that all Germans are violent Nazis."

Nobody likes a laugh more than me. Except for my wife. And Mrs. Johnson.

Define 'Offensive.'

Am I the only one that likes Turkish Coffee?

Why the random-ass definitions anyway?

As a White Canadian Female, let me clarify things for ya'll.



See, this is why I drink tea.




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[info]rimrunner
2007-09-22 06:23 pm UTC (link)
I like Turkish coffee, too, but I'm not going in there to point that out! I suspect there be teal deer lurking about.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2007-09-23 01:08 pm UTC
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[info]idiom
2007-09-22 06:34 pm UTC (link)
life would be easier for me if people like you didn't go out of their way to tell me that what I see isn't what it obviously is. enjoy your privilege, you're obviously stewing in it.

It'd also be way easier for the poster if you stopped telling her/him/it what s/he/it meant. The chip, on your shoulder (that you're apparently carrying for your aunt)? Must way a ton.

[insert standard disclaimer of non-racist upbringing and having a bajillion racial diverse friends so that I am cleared from not being sympathetic to his/her/its oppression]

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2007-09-23 02:35 am UTC
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[info]sheep
2007-09-22 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Irish Coffee beats them all says the person who doesn't drink coffee or alcohol.

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[info]missdaisy
2007-09-22 06:43 pm UTC (link)
See, this is why I drink tea.

OMG! You're supporting the oppression of the roots of American democracy! Why you gotta be such a hater?

*flounces off*

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[info]puipui
2007-09-22 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Wait, wait, are people actually arguing that the "at gunpoint" thing is supposed to refer to the taste of the coffee and not the "Arab" part? Like, seriously? Lots of people? Really really? And saying that people who see the bigotry in that joke just have sticks up their asses? Seriously?


If they didn't mean it as racist, it's not racist.

I think I just broke my hand trying to facepalm and headdesk at the same time. D:

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(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2007-09-22 07:06 pm UTC
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gah - [info]idiom, 2007-09-22 07:46 pm UTC
Re: gah - [info]wanktastic, 2007-09-22 08:27 pm UTC
Re: gah - [info]idiom, 2007-09-22 08:47 pm UTC
Re: gah - [info]mmanurere, 2007-09-23 12:18 am UTC
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[info]black_spot
2007-09-22 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Silly people, all het up over a quip. I like Arabic tea as well. No guns required.

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[info]crickets
2007-09-22 06:53 pm UTC (link)
I saw that this morning and knew it was going to end up here.

If they didn't mean it as racist, it's not racist.

Nice try, straight from the Rove handbook of public relations. You can embroider that ignorance on a snazzy throw pillow and the sentiment will be just as unattractive as before. Still, almost everyone in that conversation needs to unclench the keyboard and take a walk to calm down. It's a good thing most of them don't like Turkish coffee. One little cup of super-jazzed caffeine and they'd all be at one another's throats. Oh, wait...

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(no subject) - [info]soupspooks, 2007-09-22 08:17 pm UTC
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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2007-09-22 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh Dopple/Evilgrins. I don't think you mean to incite the wank, but somehow it just seems to follow you...

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(no subject) - [info]takhys, 2007-09-22 07:08 pm UTC
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[info]gynocrat
2007-09-22 07:05 pm UTC (link)
If you replace "arab coffee" with "matzo" is it an insult to Jews?
Put "borscht" in there and you're pissing on the Slavs?

My ma never server matzo at gunpoint -and what's really funny about this is, in Poland, the borscht is called 'white borscht'.

But this is my fav:

Your hipster post-deconstructionism interpretations are, to be blunt, in-fucking-valid. Now get over yourself.

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(no subject) - [info]rennyn_alerothi, 2007-09-22 07:14 pm UTC

tree
2007-09-22 07:15 pm UTC (link)
OK, I 'ow'ed at the gunpoint line, but LikeAWoman needs to step the hell away from her computer.

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-09-22 07:27 pm UTC (link)
Yes, because the armed and dangerous Arab is soa recent stereotype.

(And does nobody use the little pierced sieve at the end of their Turkish Coffee spoon any more?)

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-09-22 07:34 pm UTC
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[info]exit_chrysalis
2007-09-22 07:45 pm UTC (link)
Okay. Even if you agree it's not racist, telling someone that they're just too sensitive to a perceived racist remark DOES NOT HELP. Even if the poster didn't mean it that way, shouldn't he/she edit the post with a vague apology/sorry if it was misinterpreted sort of thing?

Oh, wait, that's Earth logic. Besides, wanking is fun!

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(no subject) - [info]amymccabe, 2007-09-23 03:09 pm UTC

[info]freezer
2007-09-22 08:07 pm UTC (link)
[info]likeawoman is one especially sensitive little snowflake, isn't she?

Disclaimer: People who get THAT offended on behalf of someone else's race/gender/religion/alma mater push my "Bitch plz" buttons.

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(no subject) - [info]idiom, 2007-09-25 07:23 am UTC

[info]freezer
2007-09-22 08:14 pm UTC (link)
patgund: Have you ever encountered someone who *looks* for reason to be offended??

I have. On multiple occasions. The term I've seen for it is "offense kleptomaniacs". If they can't find a good reason to take offense, they find a bad one


I tend to call them the "professionally pissed-off", myself.

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[info]themadmermaid
2007-09-22 08:22 pm UTC (link)
If the poster called it "arab death to infidels mujahadeem coffee", then yes, I can see where someone might be offended.

Or someone like myself might be loling to death.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-22 08:41 pm UTC (link)
....dude. Have you never had a cup of coffee that looked like it was going to point a gun at you?

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[info]sisterelwood
2007-09-22 10:20 pm UTC (link)
I find [info]likeawoman's deep offense about as valid as the White Canadian Female. Honey, you live in Mount Pleasant, Michigan. I'm sorry but the only diversity, for the most part, there happens to be the white folk who took over the area from the Native Americans.

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(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2007-09-24 07:36 pm UTC
Coffee = Siriz Bizniz.
[info]julesnoctambule
2007-09-22 11:01 pm UTC (link)
I've been told by various people that my coffee could 'be used to tar a roof' or 'strip paint off a car'. My favourite was 'This could climb out of the cup, walk over to the sugar bowl and sweeten itself.' Surely, that's meant to discriminate against differently abled coffee! Now I will know to be offended next time thanks to [info]likeawoman.

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Re: Coffee = Siriz Bizniz. - [info]bubosquared, 2007-09-22 11:28 pm UTC
Re: Coffee = Siriz Bizniz. - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-09-24 02:22 am UTC
Re: Coffee = Siriz Bizniz. - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-09-23 09:37 pm UTC
Re: Coffee = Siriz Bizniz. - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-09-24 02:20 am UTC

[info]isntitironic
2007-09-23 12:23 am UTC (link)
Yogurt is one of only three foods that taste exactly the same as they sound. The other two are goulash and squid.

My god, she's right...

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-09-23 01:59 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2007-09-23 10:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bolboreta, 2007-09-23 01:47 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-09-24 01:41 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]fresco_le_raye, 2007-09-23 02:10 pm UTC
Hee! - [info]singe, 2007-09-23 05:51 pm UTC
Re: Hee! - [info]fresco_le_raye, 2007-09-23 08:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]komorebi, 2007-09-26 05:57 am UTC

[info]sunhawk
2007-09-23 12:33 am UTC (link)
Wow, who knew that if you took an old joke, changed the "Turkish" part to "Arab", everyone will act like it's a new and now-political and racist joke? I feel dated now.

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[info]mistal
2007-09-23 01:09 am UTC (link)
As a White Canadian Female

So am I!!

...

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[info]xero_sky
2007-09-23 05:08 am UTC (link)
There's not enough firepower in the world to make me drink that stuff again.

So, not only is the joke old and lame, but entirely inadequate. *shakes fist* I demand something wittier, damnit! Perhaps involving napalm.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-23 05:32 am UTC (link)
I'm looking at this, and all I can think is "Oh, come on. If she wanted to be racist, she would have said 'under threat of car bombings.'" Oh, and also:

also, why all the random ass definations? tounge? arab coffee? pre-heat? what made you choose all those, and why post them here? why couldnt you put USEFUL definations that most people dont know?

...Wait, so she should post definitions of things people don't know, meaning they'll most likely miss the humor? What? Or are they saying they shouldn't post humorous definitions, but SRS BIZ? HELP ME I AM SO CONFUSED D:

~Some Other Mouse.

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[info]pyrrah
2007-09-23 10:38 am UTC (link)
Sooo does she mean regular Turkish coffee (very dark, thick, and bittersweet) or Arabic coffee (light and golden transparent)?

*can't see the words "Arabic coffee" and "thick" in the same sentence*

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-09-23 09:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2007-09-23 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-09-24 01:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mary_mac, 2007-09-25 07:45 pm UTC

[info]amymccabe
2007-09-23 03:14 pm UTC (link)
While I don't see it as meaning to be racist comment (I first took it as, "You'd only drink it at gun point") I can very easily see it as being perceived as racist. An apology would go a long way, me thinks.

Of course that would mean much less wank and the always amusing race=religion=country of origin confusion. I think anyone that uses a variation of "OMG! You are racists against Muslims" should automatically lose the argument. It is impossible to be racists against Muslims.

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I Agree. - [info]gynocrat, 2007-09-25 03:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amymccabe, 2007-09-24 12:21 am UTC
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