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food, godwin's, jokes that don't go over well, racism

You got your racism in my coffee! You got your coffee in my racism!
evilgrins delivered a list of bogus food terms to the food_porn community which was kind of amusing but the last definition...

arab coffee: Thick, black, bitter coffee, traditionally served in tiny cups at gunpoint.

...really inspired some, uh, debate.

likeawoman is accused of being likeatroll for staying determinedly offended by everyone but obfuscate brings up Godwins first. "If you replace "arab coffee" with "matzo" is it an insult to Jews? "Haggis" (I hear it's good, but what the hell.. who came up with that?), and it's a comment on how violent those damn Scots are? Put "borscht" in there and you're pissing on the Slavs? "Liverwurst" would then, I suppose, mean that all Germans are violent Nazis."

Nobody likes a laugh more than me. Except for my wife. And Mrs. Johnson.

Define 'Offensive.'

Am I the only one that likes Turkish Coffee?

Why the random-ass definitions anyway?

As a White Canadian Female, let me clarify things for ya'll.

See, this is why I drink tea.

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	idiom 2007-09-22 07:15 pm UTC (link)
	I disagree, but I'll save you the tl;dr. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ecchaniz0r 2007-09-22 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	Diagree with what? I'm not tryin' to be sassy, I'm just curious about what-all you disagree with. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

idiom
2007-09-22 07:44 pm UTC (link)

I disagree with the idea that it is racism and that the "at gunpoint" refers to Arabs and not the "you'd have to be held at gunpoint to drink this coffee" joke/idea. I don't think it's racist. I think the fact that the phrase "at gunpoint" has been around far longer than anti-Muslin American sentiments means we probably shouldn't read more into it than the phrase has ever entailed. But that's just my opinion. (To be perfectly honest, when I first glanced at this wank report, I saw "godwin's" and "arab coffee at gunpoint" and wondered if that's the coffee that was served in the concentration camps. I was disoriented going in.)

Maybe I misunderstood puipui, which I'm sorry if I did, but I disagree with the "it's racist" assessment and since there was no chance of funny and very large chance of SRS BZN, I opted out of more than "I disagree". That's all.

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	gah idiom 2007-09-22 07:46 pm UTC (link)
	* anti-Muslim (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gah wanktastic 2007-09-22 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	I liked the original. Although, I am personally anti-angora. Makes me sneeze. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gah idiom 2007-09-22 08:47 pm UTC (link)
	I'm anti-velvet myself. Whenever I touch it, I get goosebumps. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gah mmanurere 2007-09-23 12:18 am UTC (link)
	I'm anti-velvet too -- whenever I cut it or sew it, it leaves velvet-poop everywhere and clogs up my sewing machine. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gah puipui 2007-09-23 03:30 am UTC (link)
	YES. God, I hate that! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gah mmanurere 2007-09-23 05:29 am UTC (link)
	It's sick...the velvet just keeps giving me nothing but pain and frustration, but the finished product is always just so touchable that sooner or later, I always go back. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: gah ecchaniz0r 2007-09-23 05:51 am UTC (link)
	Velvet-poop gfhkjdfg I adore you. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: gah idiom 2007-09-23 07:46 pm UTC (link)
	Velvet poops? I'm now more anti-velvet. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: gah chaimonkey 2007-09-23 11:03 pm UTC (link)
	I hates the velvet. It always smells funny. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: gah marumae 2007-09-24 04:28 am UTC (link)
	Oh god ME TOO. Add into that Angora because it makes me itch. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	cmdr_zoom 2007-09-24 06:18 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, what idiom said. I'd have been caught by this too; it took me a moment to realize why the stock expression "forced to (x) at gunpoint" was so (potentially) heinous in this context. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	warrioreowyn 2007-09-22 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	I disagree as well. For one thing, "muslim" is not a race. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	puipui 2007-09-22 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	Note that that's why I didn't use the word "racist". Unlike, oh, everyone arguing with wossname in the original post. more facepalming (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	katarin 2007-09-22 08:43 pm UTC (link)
	Forgive me if I'm wrong... but isn't "Arab" a race? And didn't the OP say Arab coffee? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	puipui 2007-09-22 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	The OP said "arab coffee" but I think people were mixing and matching in the comments there, IIRC. Racial terms, religious terms, political terms, countries of origin, it's all racism, right? It was very bzuh. I went with the generic "bigotry" so as to avoid the whole issue. It's a very useful word on the internet, I've found. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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