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Tiara [my demand] ([info]mydemand) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-01-13 11:06:00


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Entry tags:scrapbooking

scrapbooking wank, in LAT form.
Kristina Contes, once beloved by the avant-garde scrapbooking community, is now despised like crazy. Comments about her include "I guess her response is 'dignified' if you live in the same trailer park as she does." and "doesn't have a moral bone in her body."

Her crime? Inadvertently breaking a competition rule by including a photo she didn't take herself.

edit: Kristina's blog is invite-only, but here's some context:

Newsweek
Kristina's response, resposted
Responses to Kristina on the CK forum
"Creating Keepsakes will never again get my support!"
ScrapSmack archives (where the "trailer park" comment comes from); includes bonus wank about photography styles
ScrapSmack's response to the LA Times article
CK's disqualification
Scrapbooking Obsession's posts (with losts of backstory): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

edit 2: Kristina's new blog, which doesn't mention anything about the scandal (I think).

edit 3: Lee Golberg's sisters weighs in:

I do find it interesting that some people seemed really irked that Kristina was using- hold on to your hats people- pictures of HERSELF, things she LIKED (fashion!), and non-archival quality items in her scrapbook pages. I am also really surprised that in a hobby/lifestyle/whatever you want to call it all about preserving memories and all the little good moments in life, some people are so judgmental about how other people do things. Why does it matter that she used pictures of herself in her OWN SCRAP BOOK PAGES? WHO CARES?


ScrapSmack commenters are "Disappointed" - "oh, they seemed like very smart ladies, what a shame!". Also, Kristina Contes is not a persecuted artist. It's FAVOURITISM AND JUDGE FIXING OMG.

edit 3.5: Winningest comment, from the Journal Revolution blog:

Okay, a question. If all materials in the scrapbook had to be produced by the artist, as the article and apparently the rules state, where does this leave collages, magazine clippings and pics, special paper. . .or any paper for that matter? If rubber stamps were used, did they have to make their own? Did they have to use beet juice for paint, and if so who grew the beet?


edit 4: Man, this wank just keeps on giving:

Finial thoughts on previous subject... it's old news, people that don't scrap aren't aware of the importance of HOF or the influence it can have on a designer's career and will never understand why there was so much stink about it at the time. They don't realize the effect this had on the whole industry and the ethics involved. To them it will always look like a bunch of women fighting over the paper and glue. They don't know the background of the story, and really don't care to learn it. It's easier to just form quick opinions of the whole affair based on the words of those who were caught. They like to poke fun at it and dismiss all of the people who were upset by it as crazy women banishing deco-edge scissors at the poor girl who made a mistake.


Methinks someone found this post.

edit 5: a little bit of poetry (scroll down):

Jewelery Making School dropout,
No graduation day for you.
Jewelery Making Schhool dropout,
Missed your midterms and flunked clasping
Well at least you could have taken time, to wash and clean
your label whore clothes up,
After spending all that dough to have the doctor fix your nose
up!


And of course, The LA Times is a pinko commie newspaper.

edit 6: After a whole bunch of "scrapbooking is for gay ugly lusers" spam, as well as a lot of "if you are not against KC you are with her!", someone else claims that we are behind this mess:

FYI - we are being spammed and monitored by the wanker people...I have told our leader..

wank to all of you here's the link:

http://www.journalfen.net/community/otf_wank/587727.html

You are all actually sadder than us, because you have to borrow wank from others for your amusement.


Oh my, watch me make a scrap page of me quivering in my non-existent boots.

edit 7: Jezebel gets into the action, labels it "Careful With That Exacto".

edit 8: Metafilter picks up the story, and Scrapbook Obsession neatly gives us all the backstory through links. For the record, she doesn't hate Kristina.

From the MeFi post: Kristina's Flickr page (mostly layouts); her group Effer Dares, which is on a hiatus right now from the "madness". maybe I should take a hiatus too, considering JUST HOW MASSIVE this wank is growing and growing and growing; The KC Hate Thread on Two Peas.

edit 9: The moment you all have been waiting for: Livejournal Scrapbooking Wank.



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[info]puipui
2008-01-13 04:27 am UTC (link)
OMG. This is beautiful. Somebody find the LJ comms where this all went down, quick! The quotes in there must be golden!

"Did she have to give back her crown and sash too???"

Now this is funny otf_wank!

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[info]dawnswalker
2008-01-13 04:32 am UTC (link)
Man, that is all kinds of crazy.

But I do wonder... It seems like a pretty explosive dogpile for the situation. I'm starting to wonder just how many of these people have never used someone else's picture in their book, credited or not.

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[info]mer1973
2008-01-13 04:32 am UTC (link)
Scrapbooking, making fandom look sane.

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[info]schmoo999
2008-01-13 04:36 am UTC (link)
Disgruntled scrapbookers besieged the Creating Keepsakes chat room threatening to cancel subscriptions, boycott and sue. Scrapbooking bloggers called it "Hall of Fame-Gate," naming it the top scrapbooking scandal of 2007. They compared it to the performance-enhancing-drug controversies involving major league baseball player Barry Bonds and Olympic track star Marion Jones.

Holy Crap...this is some serious biz....lololol

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[info]frequentmouse
2008-01-13 04:49 am UTC (link)
So, I was familiar with this before you posted, for a weird and F_W connected reason:
Lee Goldberg, whose sisters are scrapbookers, posted about it. He compared it with the LA Times lack of coverage of the Cassie Edwards plagiarism case, and the comments thread includes a funny-ish anti-fanfic joke.

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[info]princessjessia
2008-01-13 04:56 am UTC (link)
Scrapbooking wank?!

This is glorious.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2008-01-13 05:21 am UTC (link)
Wait, this is just over photography credit, not anything having to do with the actual project as a whole?

...

They're serious, aren't they? :-O

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[info]mindset
2008-01-13 05:33 am UTC (link)
Could scrapbookers take the wank crown away from the knitting community? Please oh please let there be an equivalent of "God's magical pubic hairs" for... uh, whatever the hell scrapbooks are made of...

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tree
2008-01-13 05:34 am UTC (link)
... the hell? LA Times? Newsweek? Did I wake up in a Bizarro world where scrapbooking is important? There's this whole parallel world where the art of scissors and glue matters to people over five years of age? Holy fuck! I'm in! *popcorn*

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[info]miss_eponine
2008-01-13 05:39 am UTC (link)
I read the Newsweek article in November, and I was amused enough by it to google the woman's name, and disappointingly, I never found all the crazy. So thanks for the links!

People will wank over anything, won't they?

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[info]jaina
2008-01-13 06:20 am UTC (link)
...my God. All this because she used a photo her friend took, and then asked that the person be given a photo credit?

This is some high-quality batshit, right here. Love it.

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[info]silrana
2008-01-13 06:26 am UTC (link)
My mom and grandmom ran a craft store when I was a teenager, and now I'm having visions of the little old ladies of my hometown challenging each other to ceramics at ten paces.

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[info]smashingstars
2008-01-13 06:33 am UTC (link)
The edgier scrapbookers

It's extreme scrapbooking action!

That ScrapSmack lady needs help:
...the above article appears VERY one sided. It fails to show Kristina in all her foul mouth glory.

OMG SWEAR WURDZ! Yes, it's clear the dethroned scrapbooker was guilty of many, many atrocities, including saying naughty words on her blog. She must die!

Not that Kristina is a real charmer herself:
"Women prove time and again that they are ridiculous, vile creatures," says Contes.

Oh, you.

I'm both delighted and horrified by this wank.

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(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2008-01-13 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2008-01-13 10:42 am UTC
Scrapbookers: they're like Harmonians, in a way. - [info]julian_black, 2008-01-13 11:42 am UTC
Re: Scrapbookers: they're like Harmonians, in a way. - [info]eilisliana, 2008-01-13 12:33 pm UTC
Re: Scrapbookers: they're like Harmonians, in a way. - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-01-14 08:59 am UTC
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[info]jim_smith
2008-01-13 07:22 am UTC (link)
Scrappers spent $2.6 billion on supplies last year

Yeahbuhwhat?

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[info]tez
2008-01-13 09:04 am UTC (link)
...scrapbooking wank.

And not only that but Crazy Insane Gloriously Batshit Hilariously Funny Scrapbooking Wank!

My faith in OTF has...well, it hasn't quite been restored, but it's registering on the monitors instead of flatlining. Moar like this please!

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[info]miss_padfoot
2008-01-13 09:27 am UTC (link)
Wow, ScrapSmack is really wanky. Holy shit. I mean, everything she writes sounds defensive and whiny and unfunny. At least, not intentionally funny.

This is awesome.

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[info]hallidae
2008-01-13 09:59 am UTC (link)
See, this shit is why I tell my mother to stick to redecorating the house every few months and keeping her Barbie collection dusted instead of taking up scrapbooking.

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[info]brown_betty
2008-01-13 10:00 am UTC (link)
I'm kinda guessing this Kristina wasn't very popular, photo-credits aside, for this to explode like this.

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bizarre but awesome
pastri_archy
2008-01-13 10:01 am UTC (link)
It brightens up my 3am last minute packing session to go back to school tomorrow noooooooooooooo! ♥

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[info]gusty
2008-01-13 01:57 pm UTC (link)
There are other talented scrapbookers, who are in fact more EDGY, who are MORE creative, who think outside the box, who use MANY colors

Oh snap, someone got pwned!

... I think. I... I really can't tell. I don't speak scrapbooker. Using fewer colors is some kind of major sin?

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[info]julian_black
2008-01-13 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I just finished looking at the images on Kristina Contes' blog.

That's edgy? That's "avant garde"? Oh, hell no.

Yeah, they're nice to look at, but I was expecting something much more radical.

Then again, given what I've seen of scrapbooks and the people who make them, including photos of yourself, using the word "fuck," and stating any sort of strong, unsentimental opinion is considered unseemly, if not downright perverse. Contes' "provocative approach is only so by comparison; because scrapbooking tends to be so conservative it doesn't take much to seem LOL EDGY. But next to a lot of the art journals I've seen, her stuff is downright fluffy.

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[info]rosalita
2008-01-13 05:34 pm UTC (link)
I don't have time right now to read all the wank, but I just gotta ask, avant garde scrapbooking? Really?

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[info]bear
2008-01-13 06:11 pm UTC (link)
I was almost with her until (from the Newsweek article):

But while Kristina Contes admits that she made a mistake, she blames "petty, jealous women" for bullying contest officials into disqualifying her work. "I mean, it's not like I stole someone's boyfriend," says the 28-year-old restaurateur. "This isn't high school."

Y HELLO THAR SNACKY'S LAW. Extra bonus points for the "ur just jelus."

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[info]julesnoctambule
2008-01-13 06:29 pm UTC (link)
So glad I don't scrapbook. Knitters are crazy enough.

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[info]_vie_
2008-01-13 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, best thing to wake up to. I. I work in a craft/fabric store, so seeing wank like this is glorious. And doesn't exactly surprise me, at the same time.

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