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this is not the hamster you're looking for (flightstothesea) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-02-19 14:07:00


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smoking bans are just like fascism!
Some of you may be familiar with a man by the name of Charlie Brooker, who writes for the Guardian's "Comment is Free" section (he also has a TV review column called "Screen Burn"). He's acerbic and misanthropic and generally reasonably funny, though if the comments on his articles are anything to go by, he was funnier at some undetermined point in the past.

This week's article is about the proposed £10 fee for a smoker's permit, the form for which is deliberately complex. This has a lot of people up in arms.

Comments for the article start out well enough, until anonymousdibs claims that There really is nothing in this world nicer than the sound of a smoker whining.

And just like that, we go from zero to Godwin's in 10 comments:

First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.

-Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Take heed, non-smokers.


Unfortunately, you can't link to individual comments, so you'll have to scroll to get to the choicer bits of stupid and funny.


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[info]ms_treesap
2008-02-19 08:09 pm UTC (link)
Those Guardian forums must be sore by now.

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[info]shakeandbake
2008-02-19 08:11 pm UTC (link)
Christ, we'll need a permit to masturbate soon.

I should certainly say so!

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(no subject) - [info]ms_treesap, 2008-02-19 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]missdaisy, 2008-02-19 08:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2008-02-20 12:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]no_touching, 2008-02-20 03:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shakeandbake, 2008-02-20 11:23 pm UTC

[info]trisandrockets
2008-02-20 07:03 am UTC (link)
The Guardian forums are surprisingly resilient, I've found. They can handle Morrissey drama and endless debates about Rafael Benitez.

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[info]rosehiptea
2008-02-19 08:28 pm UTC (link)
I think there need to be a new Godwin's Law about that Dietrich Bonhoeffer quote.

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[info]kernelm
2008-02-19 08:37 pm UTC (link)
Isn't it a Martin Niemöller poem anyway?

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(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2008-02-19 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2008-02-19 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2008-02-19 11:58 pm UTC

[info]brennalarose
2008-02-19 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Crap, I have a few lovely buttons that say something similar. Only they don't reek of pure, organic, pharmaceutical-grade fail.

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[info]beccastareyes
2008-02-19 08:57 pm UTC (link)
A corollary that the more any person claiming to be an oppressed minority speaks, the more likely s/he will trot out that quote (either the original or with modification).

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[info]puipui
2008-02-19 09:30 pm UTC (link)
Jurisimprudence Wiki says there already is!

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(no subject) - [info]idiom, 2008-02-19 10:07 pm UTC

[info]sheep
2008-02-19 09:01 pm UTC (link)
Take heed, non-smokers.

No.

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[info]gynocrat
2008-02-19 09:17 pm UTC (link)
...stupidity permit.

Aren't those free?

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[info]paladin
2008-02-20 12:24 am UTC (link)
No, it's just those around you who really have to pay.

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[info]barankhy
2008-02-19 09:22 pm UTC (link)
I'll be over there on that balcony, lighting up all by my self.

Also, there was a Godwin's over Germany's smoking ban some weeks ago when a guy kindly reminded some bored journalist who'd listen that the Nazis also tried a smoking ban.

*inhale*
*exhale*

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[info]gynocrat
2008-02-19 10:59 pm UTC (link)
Nazis also tried a smoking ban.

That was only after it was discovered that a tossed cigarette was responsible for all those burned books in Berlin in 1933.

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(no subject) - [info]serai, 2008-02-20 03:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]electricwitch, 2008-02-21 08:15 pm UTC

[info]sharps
2008-02-21 12:41 pm UTC (link)
What's that fallacy called? It's the same one as in "Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore all vegetarians are evil", but I don't know what it is.

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iwanttobeasleep
2008-02-19 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Take heed, non-smokers.

But I thought we were the ones doing the persecuting.

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magpiggles
2008-02-19 09:51 pm UTC (link)
But once you have persecuted us to death, who will you have left to persecute BUT YOURSELVES?

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(no subject) - [info]demonbean, 2008-02-19 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - magpiggles, 2008-02-20 12:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]demonbean, 2008-02-20 05:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]missdaisy, 2008-02-20 08:21 pm UTC

[info]phosfate
2008-02-19 10:10 pm UTC (link)
They came for the smokers, but they were wheezing too hard to object, and couldn't outrun the stormtroopers.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2008-02-19 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2008-02-19 11:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2008-02-19 11:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2008-02-19 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkeyes, 2008-02-20 12:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2008-02-20 12:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkeyes, 2008-02-20 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-02-20 12:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2008-02-20 12:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2008-02-20 06:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fantine, 2008-02-20 11:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kosaginolegion, 2008-02-20 02:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarahkjrsten, 2008-02-20 08:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-02-21 01:00 am UTC

[info]vzg
2008-02-20 02:53 am UTC (link)
Smokin': It's a way of life!

I'm confused as to exactly what they'll be coming for me for. Are they taking my gills now?

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[info]serai
2008-02-20 03:23 am UTC (link)


Just sayin'.

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(no subject) - [info]gairid, 2008-02-20 04:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2008-02-20 06:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]serai, 2008-02-21 03:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-02-21 01:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]serai, 2008-02-23 05:13 am UTC

[info]fevered_ego
2008-02-20 03:31 am UTC (link)
So like, the other day I had to (go outside in the wind / wait til the plane landed / find a different bar) just to get my nic fix. Later on at work Abe Goldman started telling me about the Jews, and I was like "Concentration camps? Preaching to the choir, my man--I'm a smoker!"

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(no subject) - [info]icedark_elf, 2008-02-20 05:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2008-02-20 05:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icedark_elf, 2008-02-20 06:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]serai, 2008-02-23 05:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2008-02-23 05:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]serai, 2008-02-24 05:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-02-24 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2008-02-24 08:29 am UTC

[info]hallidae
2008-02-20 04:01 am UTC (link)
Y'know, this randomly reminds me of the fact that our administration is claiming we'll be a completely smoke-free campus in six months. As in, you can't even stand outside and smoke, you have to sit in your car and do it. And I'm thinking "Yeah, that'll go over well when the vast majority of your cigarette-using students live in dorms and have no cars."

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(no subject) - [info]icedark_elf, 2008-02-20 05:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyamyrose, 2008-02-20 06:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icedark_elf, 2008-02-20 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyamyrose, 2008-02-20 06:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2008-02-22 04:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2008-02-20 07:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-02-20 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wook77, 2008-02-21 03:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-02-21 06:01 pm UTC

[info]luthe
2008-02-20 07:14 am UTC (link)
< thoughts on smoking and Nazis >

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[info]criticalcricket
2008-02-20 08:22 pm UTC (link)
You know, I think a fee is pretty reasonable...when compared to this guy's methods to control smoking.

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(no subject) - [info]sharps, 2008-02-21 12:56 am UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2008-02-21 12:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]solesakuma, 2008-02-21 01:28 am UTC
PENGUINS: Nature's Villain - [info]vzg, 2008-02-21 02:15 am UTC
Re: PENGUINS: Nature's Villain - flightstothesea, 2008-02-21 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sharps, 2008-02-21 12:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-02-21 01:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2008-02-21 03:48 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2008-02-21 01:12 pm UTC (link)
[thoughts on smoking]

All I know is, I wish that when a building had a no-smoking policy, it meant everyone, not just no-smoking for everyone-but-the-principal, who-lights-up-in-his-office and fills-the-teachers-room-with-smoke-and-we-all-have-to-pretend-not-to-notice.

[/thoughts on smoking]

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(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2008-02-22 04:36 pm UTC

[info]taktuk
2008-02-25 10:25 am UTC (link)
Some days I just get tired of all the hot air.

I'd say something witty, but I fucking hate tobacco/weed/etc smoke. I've already saved vs addiction and I don't want to do any of it again.

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