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Semi-righteous Indignation ([info]sneer) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-04-15 16:28:00


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So meaty...
I wasn't sure whether to plate this dish for here or clairvoyantwank; will move it if necessary. There is wank, but it's tiny so far. A bacon-wrapped wank mignon, if you will, with potential to grow into a wank porterhouse with the right seasonings.

Apparently someone wants to sew raw meat to someone else for a photoshoot, and asks the question: "is this safe?"

The general reaction is something like "um, no, wtf." Same once s_f gets hold of it.

Until ius_naturale comes along with this:

I just don't see the stupid, just another case of someone labeling something they don't agree with or value as stupid.

A few posters try to explain, with varying degrees of tact or lack thereof, why poking a needle and thread through a piece of raw meat and into someone's skin is stupid. ius_naturale (whose username I keep sporfling at because it's just a twee bit too close to "au jus" here) goes all passive-aggressive. And interprets one, maybe two comments in the whole discussion that go "ew, meat fetish" as the entire discussion being one big OMG MEAT FETISH BASHING orgy. And keeps pulling out the "I WORK WITH HIGH SCHOOL KIDS" defense against ...well, basically everything.

That's all the actual wank there is for now, but it has potential for growth especially if loud PETA-types catch wind of it.

Also, horrendous meat puns here if you are into that sort of thing.


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[info]aristaea
2008-04-16 04:21 am UTC (link)
That sounds like a great idea, actually, because someone stupid enough to let someone else sew raw meat to them DESERVES WHAT THEY GET.

I'm going to be over here converting to vegetarianism, thanks.

And I'm curious about the comment that says Germans eat raw pork. I'm American, and I was always told never, ever to do that because of trichinosis. Anyone know the deal on that?

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[info]brown_betty
2008-04-16 04:24 am UTC (link)
I dunno, but I gotta admit, it's drummed into me enough that uncooked pork is NEVER EVER EVER SAFE that I find the thought of it actually squicky.

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[info]rotten_fish
2008-04-16 04:59 am UTC (link)
The internet is fucking with the Darwin awards.

I hear Iceland eats rotten shark or something D: I like raw beef and fish though

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dracothelizard
2008-04-16 07:49 am UTC (link)
Yeah, apparently the rotten shark thing is a test of manliness, according to Gordon Ramsay, who tried it, and then had to throw up. It was even more hilarious when James May from Top Gear didn't throw up at all.

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tree
2008-04-18 12:57 am UTC (link)
Reading this made me so happy. James May wins at life.

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dracothelizard
2008-04-18 07:44 am UTC (link)
He also beat Gordon at the 'making some dish and then giving it to some people in the restaurant who then get to choose which dish is best'. It was the best episode EVER.

And those bits are on YouTube as well, because youtube provides with lolz!

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[info]kookaburra
2008-04-16 03:39 pm UTC (link)
I love raw beef too. But only if it's from a cow we've raised/butchered ourselves, or a friend has raised/butchered.

Lamb is AMAZING raw, as well.

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[info]aristaea
2008-04-17 10:45 am UTC (link)
I've eaten raw beef, but only the super irradiated kind. Irradiation still won't stop prion diseases.

Is it so yummy because there are holes in my brain? ):

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[info]kookaburra
2008-04-17 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, prion diseases are why we try to raise our own beef. I think it tastes better because under the thin veneer of civilization, we're all Cro-Magnons at heart.

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[info]vampychick
2008-04-17 06:06 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it's part of a cultural festival once a year. They only eat a tiny piece or something.

Anthony Bourdain described it as the worst thing he'd ever put in his mouth on purpose.

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[info]vito_excalibur
2008-04-17 06:07 pm UTC (link)
My boyfriend actually tried that! (He will eat anything that used to be alive.) Someone from the Icelandic office of his company had come over for a meeting or something and had promised to bring some over for people to try.

He said that actually, it didn't taste like anything at all. Just had kind of a gelatinous texture. He says the awful reputation is merely because it smelled bad enough to empty out that floor of the building when they opened it.

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iwanttobeasleep
2008-04-16 06:17 am UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure that's an actually-cooked-but-looks-and-tastes-raw kind of processing, but there's a reason that Germany has really high rates of parasitic infections (as does it's bastard American child, Wisconsin!).

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[info]lied_ohne_worte
2008-04-16 09:07 am UTC (link)
Nope, it's raw. And it tastes good with onions.

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[info]lied_ohne_worte
2008-04-16 09:06 am UTC (link)
Well, there is something that you could likely translate as "ground meat" - if you cook it, together with some other ingredients, you get meatballs. This ground beef is eaten raw by many people, often on bread with onions. It tastes very good, actually. And it's not a weird subculture thing; you can get it in restaurants, and in some regions it is part of the local food traditions.

However, German health regulations are very strict, especially when it comes to meat, so the danger is manageable.

Still... sewing raw meat to someone? Why oh why? I don't care it's a kink, it's... ouch!

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[info]no_touching
2008-04-16 11:41 am UTC (link)
Um, the fact that the word 'Gammelfleisch' became a bit of a buzzword a couple of years back due to the numerous cases of rotten meat being re-dated and sold in major supermarket chains is testament to the pretty shitty execution of any strict health regulations that may or may not be in existance. I have too often bought meat in Germany that is off to count anymore.

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[info]queencallipygos
2008-04-16 12:48 pm UTC (link)
Point of clarification: Is this ground meat strictly ground BEEF, or can it also be ground PORK? Because there's a greater risk of parasites with pork than there is with beef. So ground beef eaten raw isn't all that out-there a thing.

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[info]lied_ohne_worte
2008-04-16 03:56 pm UTC (link)
As far as I know, it is pork. We like a bit of risk, it appears.

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[info]ruby_falls
2008-04-16 06:35 pm UTC (link)
I grew up in Milwaukee, WI, USA, and I remember having raw beef on rye bread growing up. Just a little bit of onion and some salt/pepper. I don't remember getting any illnesses specifically linked to it. It was really good.

I don't care if it's meat, it's the sewing part that causes me problems.

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[info]ellensmithee
2008-04-16 10:00 am UTC (link)
It freaked me out when I first came here and was served slightly underdone pork, but I've been told several times that trichinosis isn't a problem over here. It still grosses me out though. And most Germans don't eat "raw" pork on purpose, they just don't cook it to death like my mother always did (i.e. they'll cook it till it's done usually, but not for hours).

Germans don't eat baked ham like we do (only as cold cuts), though, and that has always made me really sad. They've started to sell it only recently, but marinated in garlic butter, as if it didn't already have enough fat.

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[info]no_touching
2008-04-16 11:34 am UTC (link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett

It's quite common actually.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2008-04-17 01:24 am UTC (link)
IIRC, trichinosis is far less common than it used to be (that is, pigs butchered for food aren't that likely to be infected).

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[info]kittenmommy
2008-04-17 09:10 pm UTC (link)

My stepmother's family is from Austria, and her brother told me that they eat rare pork in Germany all the time. Evidently they have better animal husbandry techniques over there than we do over here, and the meat is safer.

Which doesn't surprise me a bit, honestly.

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