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Amy ([info]rowanberries) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-04-23 00:52:00


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May I grope your breasts? It's liberating!
Seriously? This hasn't been wanked yet?

EDIT: Answer - It has, in elsecomm. Go there!

Oh, well. Posting on behalf of mouse who did all the work on [info]wank_report. Seriously, I just futzed around with the links here and there. Hail mouse!

ANYWAY - At a recent con, someone had a brainwave.

"This should be a better world," a friend of mine said. "A more honest one, where sex isn't shameful or degrading. I wish this was the kind of world where say, 'Wow, I'd like to touch your breasts,' and people would understand that it's not a way of reducing you to a set of nipples and ignoring the rest of you, but rather a way of saying that I may not yet know your mind, but your body is beautiful."

This is from a post *endorsing* the product of said brainwave, the Open Source Boobs Project.

The project was, basically, walking up to women and offering them buttons that said "Yes you may" and "No you may not" the may in question being "May I ask to touch your breasts?"

Surprisingly, not everyone in the world thought this was a wonderful idea. Breast wank ensues! ... Not that kind of wank. Um. We hope?



"I'm not trying to be adversarial here, I'm just confused. Many people seem to be upset by this, but if you were uncomfortable with the idea wouldn't it be refreshing to be able to just put on a red button to keep the annoying men away?

Sometimes, I like to enjoy the delusion of living in a world where what a woman has on her chest isn't the primarily important thing about her, whether it be buttons or shirts or what-have-you."

(Here.)

"Women's breasts are not magical devices for healing straight men's psyches. Women's bodies do not exist to make straight men feel better about themselves. Women have their own shit to deal with, and a lot of the time, that shit is us, even (sometimes especially) when we're trying to do better"

([info]tablesaw leads the straight male opposition.)

Next: More outrage outside the post here!

" Ah, yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could live in a world where some random guy I don't know can ask me, without any sort of shame, if he can grope me?

NO, MOTHERFUCKERS. NO, IT WOULD NOT."

(From here.)

"Because the way to an egalitarian and less body-conscious utopia is for women's bodies to default to public space. We just don't have enough sexualized treatment of women as bodies instead of whole social persons in public spaces!

Fuck you."

(Here.)

"It is not assumed that you, random stranger, are entitled to take my life unless I am wearing a shirt that says, "Do not kill me.""

(Here.)

Aaaand bits from comments; Here, here, here and EVERYWHERE.

And then, of course, revenge of the LOLs.

The open source knuckle sandwich!

"Can you imagine a situation, where you could be hanging out with a bunch of friends at a con, and you could see someone who's face was just begging to be punched, and you could say,
"Excuse me. You're very beautiful. I'd like to punch you in the face. Would you mind if I did?"

"You'd hold your breath, not wanting to offend. This could go wrong, collapsing and turning you into cruel sadists who'd make the person you'd approach feel uncomfortable and shamed of who he was....

But imagine how liberating, how freeing, how healing, when the answer comes back yes. Yes! YESSSSSSSS!"


And, obviously,

The open source swift kick to the balls project!

"As we all know, many women long to give a swift kick in the balls to some male person or other. Yet all too often women are prohibited from doing so.

...

"To this end, we propose a community-based Open Source Swift Kick to the Balls Project."


theferret responds:

In a post here.

And after freezing, and... possibly bahleeting? some comments, a reply here.

And apparently there wasn't bahleeting, but there are caps just in case.

FUN TIMES!

Bonus points: Catch the 'open sourcers support me in ???'!


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[info]blackjackrocket
2008-04-23 02:39 am UTC (link)
I'd react with understandable hostility if someone came up out of the blue and asked to touch *any* random part of me. So even seperating breasts from sex, and sex from shame, wouldn't change my reaction--I'd want to pop them one.

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[info]shinga
2008-04-23 03:32 am UTC (link)
The last con I went to, I had a guy come up to me before I had even gotten my badge, to ask if he could touch my feet. He started off the request by asking if I could even feel my feet. I said no and wheeled away and as I did so, he did a slow pet of my hair.

WTF.

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[info]erototoxin
2008-04-23 04:47 am UTC (link)
Wow. That is MASSIVELY skeevy.

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[info]amokk
2008-04-23 07:01 am UTC (link)
Ok, that's fucked up.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2008-04-23 07:21 am UTC (link)
that's when you twist your head like a velociraptor and bite his hand off.

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[info]nekoneko
2008-04-23 10:41 am UTC (link)
Seconded.

Jeebus, how creepy.

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[info]honorh
2008-04-23 07:37 am UTC (link)
EW.

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[info]rowanberries
2008-04-23 11:39 am UTC (link)
...GLEH.

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[info]nekoama
2008-04-23 12:44 pm UTC (link)
Oh damn. Now I'm glad I just work the cons - I think the official badge scares the skeevers off.
Or Canadian cons are just nicer.

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[info]phosfate
2008-04-23 02:32 pm UTC (link)
OMG! I got stranded overnight in Detroit one year, and this airline pilot saw me in my sock feet by a hotel vending machine. "Would you like me to rub your feet?" "Uh...no, thank you." "The stewardesses really like it when I rub their feet." "No, thank you."

That was 15 years ago. Nowadays I'd probably just laugh hysterically.

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[info]puipui
2008-04-23 05:47 pm UTC (link)
"The stewardesses really like it when I rub their feet."

Somehow I think they probably liked it far less than he thought they did. D:

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[info]phosfate
2008-04-23 06:00 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. Or at least they knew who the fuck he was.

I'd been in the same shoes and socks for 20 hours. I should've taken him up on it.

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[info]puipui
2008-04-23 08:15 pm UTC (link)
He probably would've surreptitiously sniffed your feet. And enjoyed it. Oh, ew.

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[info]phosfate
2008-04-23 08:19 pm UTC (link)
I hate you now.

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[info]puipui
2008-04-23 08:28 pm UTC (link)

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2008-04-23 05:23 pm UTC (link)
I want to have a bath just from reading about that. UGH.

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[info]khym_chanur
2008-04-23 09:34 pm UTC (link)
O_O

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[info]shaysdays
2008-04-23 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Maybe it was like, some kind of bizarre pick-up joke.

"Hey baby, can you feel your feet?"
Um, no.
"Can I, then?" *wink wink, suggestive smile*

Because c'mon, if a foot fetishist meets a chick in a wheelchair that he finds attractive, he's gotta use it. It's in the Bad Pick-up Line Hall of Fame, that one.

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[info]shinga
2008-04-23 10:20 pm UTC (link)
His story was that he was offering foot rubs to congoers "because people walk a lot at cons and their feet hurt and I'm helping"... but then he was all "lol but I guess that isn't a problem for you" but offered anyway. WTF.

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[info]shaysdays
2008-04-23 10:27 pm UTC (link)
I've heard of free hugs before, but not free footrubs. Skeeeeeeeeevy!

Still, you gotta admit there's a wealth of "Only in this one instance will it work" pick-up lines. Like when a necrophiliac meets a narcoleptic. "Man, you are drop-dead beautiful!"

...Okay,that the only one I can think of. I had a nebulous idea involving a gardener and a size queen and something about filling in a hole, but I can't get it out right.

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2008-04-24 01:45 pm UTC (link)
Dude, I got plenty of those jokes as Poison Ivy. At a party, not even a con.

"Hey, can I plant seeds in you?" "I think I'm hungry for some SALAD." "I'm totally voting Bush in the election next year." "Mighty fine bush you've got there." "I'm itching all over to have a time with you."

I don't think I ever want to hear plant-related pickup lines ever again. IT WAS WORSE THAN THE MR FREEZE JOKES IN BATMAN & ROBIN.

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[info]kermit_the_sock
2008-04-23 10:32 pm UTC (link)
I feel the letters "WTF" should be in 72 pt bold pink sparkly flashing font.

Seriously do people not learn to 'look but not touch' as children?

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[info]altera
2008-04-24 02:44 am UTC (link)
EW. That's horrible.

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[info]funwithrage
2008-04-23 01:59 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. I'm not a fan of random people coming up and *talking* to me. Touching? Fuck no.

That said, if it was just the "yes" buttons, and people only asked women who wore said buttons--and the default for everyone else ever was "no"--then I have no real problem with it. Though the whole "this heals me of my pathetic high school trauma" bit makes me gigglesnort.

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