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token ([info]chaimonkey) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-04-27 12:54:00
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Current mood:Cliquish

uniforms = fascism
There's wank in the Fark pool again.

The following article gets posted with a "Hero" tag:

Following the school district's implementation of a uniform policy, parents complained that they can't afford uniforms, principal fights back sending an email saying that they should think about their child's education [Article]

Comments start off agreeing with the principal (who is actually a board member), but TheCid is not amused.

TheCid | 2008-04-26 10:08:07 PM
What I want to know is, since when does the government have the power to tell people (regardless of age) what to wear?

How is this not a ridiculous overstepping of their constitutional bounds? How can anyone support this blatant authoritarianism??

the shaman takes a real shining to our boy, and the love affair begins:

TheCid | 2008-04-26 10:25:11 PM
Good to identify yet another person who's part of the problem with this nation. Farking authoritarian followers.

the shaman | 2008-04-26 10:27:48 PM
I've got you farkied as "stupid, paranoid, atheist asshole"

You are the problem.

...And ends:

TheCid | 2008-04-26 10:40:04 PM
You're a lunatic who believes in shamanism and supports tearing down the wall of separation between church and state. You're an deluded fool with no grip on reality.
The fact that you support the authoritarians here in no way surprises me.

Welcome to my ignore list, farktard.

real shaman | 2008-04-26 10:58:46 PM
woooooo!!!! I'm on a dumbass's ignore list.

The rest of the 561 comments (and counting!) result in a dog piling of TheCid, whose ignore list seems to be a desirable goal:

Arthur Jumbles | 2008-04-26 10:58:12 PM
Could you please put me on your ignore list too? Please. I'd put you on mine except I'm not afraid to listen to points of view that differ from my own and as such don't use one.

Some Bass Playing Guy | 2008-04-26 10:59:06 PM
One look at TheCid's picture in his profile tells me all I need to know about him. You know that one person in your circle of friends that nobody likes, but nobody can quite tell that person? That's TheCid. [Profile]

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:02:03 PM
He looks like the punks whose lunch money ended up in my pocket.

jmmsmile | 2008-04-26 11:17:14 PM
Oooh oooooh! I wanna be on TheCid's ignore list! Pleeeease!!!

You little popcorn fart.

Communism is called:

KoalaFace | 2008-04-26 11:15:58 PM
you seem to be awfully overbearing about your precious crotch dropplings 'freedoms.' Face the facts- this world/country/state/education system is not about YOU. It is about what is the best for the WHOLE. What is best for the whole appears to be school uniforms, for the reasons previously stated.

Don't you think that if EVERYONE in this thread is disagreeing with you quite adimately, that maybe, just maybe, you could be wrong?

TheCid | 2008-04-26 11:18:36 PM
You posting on fark is not the best for the whole. Get back to work, comrade. This country is supposed to be about individual freedom.

Not that many people actually give a shiat about freedom anymore.

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:24:33 PM
You know who else made lame jokes about communism?

farc | 2008-04-26 11:25:29 PM
godwinned!!!!! ftw

Some real shaman highlights as he enjoys his place on the ignore list:

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:19:05 PM
neener neener neener neener neener neener
/boy can I be juvenile sometimes.

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:31:01 PM
I remember now where I argued with thecid before....

He was in total agreement with the requirement of mandatory service for high school students.

It was totally ok then for government officials to tell your kids what to do.

One last funny before it turns into a bullying discussion and repeats from those late to the party:

KoalaFace | 2008-04-26 11:48:25 PM
[TheCid: What happened to your mother was wrong. The school had no business ordering her to change her hairstyle, and the fact that you still support this uniform bullshiat even though you know that story just confirms my suspicions- you are an idiot.

What good is health without freedom?]

you're a grad student, aren't you?

Also, bonus John Stuart Mill discussion starting at 2008-04-26 11:59:50 PM


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[info]grrliz
2008-04-27 06:39 pm UTC (link)
What they really need to do is clearly specify a NO JEANS rule because you know someone will try to find wiggle room with that list of requirements.

That's accessibility of this "uniform" is why I don't feel so ZOMG UNIFORM about this: it's mostly every day clothing you can get cheaply in easily accessible stores, the only issue being that they have a limited colour palette to choose from. (Oh noes, my individuality!!!1) We had a uniform at my high school and when I started you had to buy directly from the specific uniform manufacturer, which sucked because the fit of the clothing was hideous and the prices were twice what they would be if you could buy the items at a regular store. Plus it doesn't sound like officially monogrammed school sweaters / jackets or overly expensive kilts in the school colours are part of the uniform, so I still feel very "strict dress code rather than uniform" about this. My school uniform clearly haunts me years after the fact.

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[info]rosehiptea
2008-04-27 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I had a similar uniform, in terms of availabity and ugliness. The thing I really resent about it is that the girls had one and the boys didn't, which led to many sexist remarks by the boys about how the girls needed it because they're all so fashion-obsessed. (Which was apparently the administration's point also.)

I guess it haunts me too!

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[info]solesakuma
2008-04-27 09:03 pm UTC (link)
We had to use a 'guardapolvo' (an apron-like thing) and it always pissed me off that we girls had to wear them and the boys didn't, BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE EXCITED THEM.

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[info]brown_betty
2008-04-28 02:35 am UTC (link)
Really? Where I was, the girls graduated out of those at about the point they entered high school, at just the point when the dangerous hypnotic attraction their breasts exerted might be assumed to be at its strongest.

I thought they just made the younger girls wear those things so that the older girls could feel superior.

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(no subject) - [info]solesakuma, 2008-04-28 02:44 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2008-04-28 01:46 am UTC (link)
The thing I really resent about it is that the girls had one and the boys didn't, which led to many sexist remarks by the boys about how the girls needed it because they're all so fashion-obsessed. (Which was apparently the administration's point also.)

O_o

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[info]janegraddell
2008-04-27 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Metro Nashville schools call it "standard school attire," which I suppose is the new term for "dress code." :) I have to say that my main engagement with the battle was the amusement I got out of reading the wankstorm in the newspapers.

Anyway, the policy allows "Pants, shorts, capri pants, skirts, skorts or jumpers in the colors of navy blue, black or any shade of khaki," but later on specifically prohibits "Denim jeans of any color, 'cargo' shorts or pants, and hooded sweatshirts."

The MNPS dress code is six pages long now. Before the standard school attire came into effect last year, it was apparently about 30 pages long, and included exhaustive detail about how wide a shirt strap could be, the lengths allowed above the knee for a skirt, the exact definition of "flip-flop" and other equally exciting reading.

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[info]grrliz
2008-04-27 06:55 pm UTC (link)
LOL I remember in elementary school our tank tops had to have straps that were at least three fingers wide and I always thought this was unfair to people with fat fingers.

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[info]janegraddell
2008-04-27 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Discrimination! I would have been screwed. If I'd ever worn anything other than T-shirts in high school. :)

I believe the standard measurement in the Metro Nashville schools was the width of a dollar bill. The *length* of a dollar bill was, I think, the allowable distance from knee to skirt hem.

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[info]brennalarose
2008-04-27 07:26 pm UTC (link)
I had a girlfriend in school who had very long arms, so the rule we had about "skirts and shorts must have a hem that is either at or below fingertip length" sucked for her.

I was such a wuss in school, I only had to worry about the width of pantleg rule.

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(no subject) - [info]meriel, 2008-04-27 09:36 pm UTC
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[info]vzg
2008-04-28 02:47 am UTC (link)
I think we were't allowed to wear tank tops (or, at least, girls couldn't). We had to have sleeves. Sometimes I'm suprised they didn't disallow shorts or shorter skirts — they might've seen our ankles!

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(no subject) - [info]lysana, 2008-04-29 03:31 am UTC

[info]koyomi_mizuhara
2008-05-03 10:24 pm UTC (link)
My high school forbade tanktops in any forms ,jeans, shorts, skirts above the knee.. Girls weren't allowed to wear pants on thursdays. We had the occasional casual days though. This started in 6th grade and went up through graduation IIRC.

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[info]khym_chanur
2008-04-28 01:48 am UTC (link)
Jesus Christ, 30 pages?! What the hell did they need that many pages for?

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[info]janegraddell
2008-04-28 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Apparently to nail down the difference between a tank top and a sleeveless T. And flip-flops and sandals. And how low pants could ride, and how big they could be, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

The school where my daughter is going next year has a different dress code from Metro, so I'm looking forward to having an entire new dress code to learn and buy for. Only not. (I have already broken the news that pink is not allowed. She took it bravely.)

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[info]lady_red
2008-04-27 07:24 pm UTC (link)
That's accessibility of this "uniform" is why I don't feel so ZOMG UNIFORM about this: it's mostly every day clothing you can get cheaply in easily accessible stores, the only issue being that they have a limited colour palette to choose from.

That's pretty much how it is here in the UK: white shirt, black/navy/grey (depending on school colours) skirt or trousers, smart black shoes, socks or tights in black/navy/white/grey. The only things you had to special order was the tie, & a blazer with the school crest on if you wanted one (& that was optional - I only knew 1 guy in school of approx 1000 who had one). You could pick all of it up for a few quid. Fuck, as I'm short, I still raid the school supplies stuff for cheap smart clothes.

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[info]lady_red
2008-04-27 07:27 pm UTC (link)
Oh & there was a sweater in the school colours with a school crest on it that also required ordering from a special supplier, but plain non-crested ones were also acceptable - my mum knitted my cardigans - so long as they were v-necked so you could see the school tie.

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[info]vroom
2008-04-27 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Blazers were compulsary at my school, and really expensive. So, everyone started school with a blazer about eight sizes too big that was expected to last them from Year 7 to Year 11.

I never totally grew into mine.

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[info]mary_mac
2008-04-27 11:44 pm UTC (link)
Ours were apparently made of Kevlar. The bloody things were [i]rigid[/i].
The switch to long skirt&jumper at 15 was a relief.

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[info]sharps
2008-04-28 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Heh. Year Sevens always look utterly ridiculous in their blazers.

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(no subject) - [info]elemcee, 2008-04-28 11:19 pm UTC

[info]athersgeo
2008-04-28 08:37 am UTC (link)
*YOU* may not have needed more than that! My uniform consisted of a bottle green wrap around skirt (which was unflattering but fully lined, thus warm; half way through my first year, they switched to a kilt style which wasn't fully lined and which pissed many parents off - then they decreed that anyone who already HAD the wrap around could wear it until they reached the end of their time in uniform *headdesk*), white long sleeved blouse, bottle green cardigan or sweater (or if the heating was on the fritz, both), then either the school blazer or the school gaberdine (neither of which were waterproof, and considering I live in one of the wettest cities in the country, this SERIOUSLY sucked - on wet days, the locker rooms stank like wet dog). There were also regulation school knickers (!), a summer uniform intended as a kind of purgatory for people just starting their periods (white near-seethrough skirts, anyone?) and rules on what you could use to tie your hair back ("All hairbands and "scrunchies" must be green, black, brown, white or yellow" - honest to goodness school rule - I actually saw one person who'd made the grave mistake of picking up a pink band in an emergency being made to take it out and use a rubber band...). Heck, the year below mine had a uniform *BAG*!

I suppose I should be thankful that they'd finally ditched the school hat the year before I started...

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[info]metallicar67
2008-04-28 08:50 am UTC (link)
I read porn with regulation knickers once. I thought it was, you know, being porn and highly exaggerated. I mean, how does that even work?

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[info]tintagel
2008-04-28 06:52 pm UTC (link)
Grah! *jealous* I went to a school where you HAD HAD HAD to have the clothes via a specific manufacturer, blazer (which you could NEVER TAKE OFF until the teacher said so--yes, even in summer), skirts (til year 8, when they changed the rules to incorporate trousers which looked like two sacks sewn together), and a 'saxe blue' shirt.

I've never seen 'saxe blue' as a colour since. I think they just made it up.

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[info]brown_betty
2008-04-28 02:32 am UTC (link)
OMG KILTS *weeps at highschool trauma*

Mine looked like a drunk Scotsman mugged a sailor and stole his shirt. Anyone want to bond?

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[info]soupspooks
2008-04-28 03:13 am UTC (link)
Mine was grey, red, and yellow. It looked like a traffic accident vomited up plaid.

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[info]jerel
2008-05-01 02:05 am UTC (link)
dark red, dark green, and white that wasn't after you had the thing cleaned once. They were full jumpers. (US usage of the word; I'm not sure what the UK equivalent is.) (It's a pleated skirt with these two things that come over your shoulder, you wear a blouse under it.) Tie, red knee socks, black dress shoes.

Boys wore dark green polyester pants, light green shirts, dress shoes, belt, and tie. The tie was the same hideous plaid for the lower grades (K-4), dark green tie for 5-8.

I work at a Catholic high school, and our kids wear a white polo with the school crest and black shorts or black pants. The girls also have the option of wearing a grey skort. Seniors can wear a yellow polo. On dress up days--the days we have Mass--there are no shorts allowed. There is a special dress shirt, long-sleeved and collared. Boys must wear a tie.

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(no subject) - [info]jerel, 2008-05-01 02:06 am UTC

[info]metallicar67
2008-04-28 08:44 am UTC (link)
I would have been more upset about the fabric choices. I don't know if I had really sensitive skin back in the day or was just really picky, but there was a pretty limited number of fabrics I was willing to wear.

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