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There's wank in the Fark pool again.

The following article gets posted with a "Hero" tag:

Following the school district's implementation of a uniform policy, parents complained that they can't afford uniforms, principal fights back sending an email saying that they should think about their child's education [Article]

Comments start off agreeing with the principal (who is actually a board member), but TheCid is not amused.

TheCid | 2008-04-26 10:08:07 PM
What I want to know is, since when does the government have the power to tell people (regardless of age) what to wear?

How is this not a ridiculous overstepping of their constitutional bounds? How can anyone support this blatant authoritarianism??

the shaman takes a real shining to our boy, and the love affair begins:

TheCid | 2008-04-26 10:25:11 PM
Good to identify yet another person who's part of the problem with this nation. Farking authoritarian followers.

the shaman | 2008-04-26 10:27:48 PM
I've got you farkied as "stupid, paranoid, atheist asshole"

You are the problem.

...And ends:

TheCid | 2008-04-26 10:40:04 PM
You're a lunatic who believes in shamanism and supports tearing down the wall of separation between church and state. You're an deluded fool with no grip on reality.
The fact that you support the authoritarians here in no way surprises me.

Welcome to my ignore list, farktard.

real shaman | 2008-04-26 10:58:46 PM
woooooo!!!! I'm on a dumbass's ignore list.

The rest of the 561 comments (and counting!) result in a dog piling of TheCid, whose ignore list seems to be a desirable goal:

Arthur Jumbles | 2008-04-26 10:58:12 PM
Could you please put me on your ignore list too? Please. I'd put you on mine except I'm not afraid to listen to points of view that differ from my own and as such don't use one.

Some Bass Playing Guy | 2008-04-26 10:59:06 PM
One look at TheCid's picture in his profile tells me all I need to know about him. You know that one person in your circle of friends that nobody likes, but nobody can quite tell that person? That's TheCid. [Profile]

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:02:03 PM
He looks like the punks whose lunch money ended up in my pocket.

jmmsmile | 2008-04-26 11:17:14 PM
Oooh oooooh! I wanna be on TheCid's ignore list! Pleeeease!!!

You little popcorn fart.

Communism is called:

KoalaFace | 2008-04-26 11:15:58 PM
you seem to be awfully overbearing about your precious crotch dropplings 'freedoms.' Face the facts- this world/country/state/education system is not about YOU. It is about what is the best for the WHOLE. What is best for the whole appears to be school uniforms, for the reasons previously stated.

Don't you think that if EVERYONE in this thread is disagreeing with you quite adimately, that maybe, just maybe, you could be wrong?

TheCid | 2008-04-26 11:18:36 PM
You posting on fark is not the best for the whole. Get back to work, comrade. This country is supposed to be about individual freedom.

Not that many people actually give a shiat about freedom anymore.

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:24:33 PM
You know who else made lame jokes about communism?

farc | 2008-04-26 11:25:29 PM
godwinned!!!!! ftw

Some real shaman highlights as he enjoys his place on the ignore list:

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:19:05 PM
neener neener neener neener neener neener
/boy can I be juvenile sometimes.

real shaman | 2008-04-26 11:31:01 PM
I remember now where I argued with thecid before....

He was in total agreement with the requirement of mandatory service for high school students.

It was totally ok then for government officials to tell your kids what to do.

One last funny before it turns into a bullying discussion and repeats from those late to the party:

KoalaFace | 2008-04-26 11:48:25 PM
[TheCid: What happened to your mother was wrong. The school had no business ordering her to change her hairstyle, and the fact that you still support this uniform bullshiat even though you know that story just confirms my suspicions- you are an idiot.

What good is health without freedom?]

you're a grad student, aren't you?

Also, bonus John Stuart Mill discussion starting at 2008-04-26 11:59:50 PM

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lady_red
2008-04-27 07:24 pm UTC (link)

That's accessibility of this "uniform" is why I don't feel so ZOMG UNIFORM about this: it's mostly every day clothing you can get cheaply in easily accessible stores, the only issue being that they have a limited colour palette to choose from.

That's pretty much how it is here in the UK: white shirt, black/navy/grey (depending on school colours) skirt or trousers, smart black shoes, socks or tights in black/navy/white/grey. The only things you had to special order was the tie, & a blazer with the school crest on if you wanted one (& that was optional - I only knew 1 guy in school of approx 1000 who had one). You could pick all of it up for a few quid. Fuck, as I'm short, I still raid the school supplies stuff for cheap smart clothes.

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	lady_red 2008-04-27 07:27 pm UTC (link)
	Oh & there was a sweater in the school colours with a school crest on it that also required ordering from a special supplier, but plain non-crested ones were also acceptable - my mum knitted my cardigans - so long as they were v-necked so you could see the school tie. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	vroom 2008-04-27 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	Blazers were compulsary at my school, and really expensive. So, everyone started school with a blazer about eight sizes too big that was expected to last them from Year 7 to Year 11. I never totally grew into mine. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mary_mac 2008-04-27 11:44 pm UTC (link)
	Ours were apparently made of Kevlar. The bloody things were [i]rigid[/i]. The switch to long skirt&jumper at 15 was a relief. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sharps 2008-04-28 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	Heh. Year Sevens always look utterly ridiculous in their blazers. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	elemcee 2008-04-28 11:19 pm UTC (link)
	Our school didn't get blazers until year nine, so I missed out on that. Hee. (Reply to this)(Parent)

athersgeo
2008-04-28 08:37 am UTC (link)

*YOU* may not have needed more than that! My uniform consisted of a bottle green wrap around skirt (which was unflattering but fully lined, thus warm; half way through my first year, they switched to a kilt style which wasn't fully lined and which pissed many parents off - then they decreed that anyone who already HAD the wrap around could wear it until they reached the end of their time in uniform *headdesk*), white long sleeved blouse, bottle green cardigan or sweater (or if the heating was on the fritz, both), then either the school blazer or the school gaberdine (neither of which were waterproof, and considering I live in one of the wettest cities in the country, this SERIOUSLY sucked - on wet days, the locker rooms stank like wet dog). There were also regulation school knickers (!), a summer uniform intended as a kind of purgatory for people just starting their periods (white near-seethrough skirts, anyone?) and rules on what you could use to tie your hair back ("All hairbands and "scrunchies" must be green, black, brown, white or yellow" - honest to goodness school rule - I actually saw one person who'd made the grave mistake of picking up a pink band in an emergency being made to take it out and use a rubber band...). Heck, the year below mine had a uniform *BAG*!

I suppose I should be thankful that they'd finally ditched the school hat the year before I started...

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	metallicar67 2008-04-28 08:50 am UTC (link)
	I read porn with regulation knickers once. I thought it was, you know, being porn and highly exaggerated. I mean, how does that even work? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	athersgeo 2008-04-28 09:15 am UTC (link)
	It would have worked in past days (people actually checked that kind of thing), but I can assure you it DIDN'T work in the early 1990s! (It's probably worth noting, they were another item of uniform that bit the dust mid way through my first year; unlike the main school skirt, however, the loss of the regulation knickers was met with cheers!) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tofuknight 2008-04-28 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	Waitwaitwait. You mean regulation underwear? Panties? The things that touch one's womanly (or many, I suppose) bits? And they CHECKED TO SEE? there is not enough O_o or D: in my vocabulary. (Reply to this)(Parent)

caoilte
2008-04-28 08:52 am UTC (link)

In Scotland, they still have the uniform bag. @.@ (chibi is now the proud owner of 2 of said bags...*sighs*)

Here in Ireland tho, there's only one place to get the uniforms from (and it's expensive) and you HAVE to have it. Complete with crested jumper (sweater) and track suit for gym days. (so basically 2 uniforms...) Periodically they send out a newsletter with the opening comments something to the effect of 'we must remind parents that the uniform is blah blah blah'.

What a pain that was...the shop stocks uniforms by school so you have to go in and tell them what school your kid goes to and they fish out the approximate size. (he's been there nearly a year and the clothes still don't quite fit yet...I can see him having to wear them next year too. Well, except his trousers as he's already worn those out...)

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athersgeo
2008-04-28 09:23 am UTC (link)

Yeah, it's much the same here in England (or at least, my bit of it) - you go to John Lewis and say "My daughter/son attends [insert school name]" and get pointed to the right racks of clothing. There's clearly some collusion between the schools because *ALL* the girls wear the same cut of blouse and all the boys wear the same colour trousers (grey), which makes life a little simpler.

And yeah, we had the gym kit as well - which was another part of the uniform that got changed mid way through my first year. Unlike the school skirt, however, we WERE expected to get the new kit - which delighted parents of ickle firsties not above a little, having already bought brand new games skirt/airtex/tracksuit. (I will say, though, that the new kit was an improvement over the old one - games skirts will never be flattering [or warm], but at least the sweatshirt and trackie bottoms were fleece lined!)

The ridiculous thing about the uniform bag thing at my school was it only applied to the first three years of the senior school; after that you could use whatever you liked. Not quite sure what the point of the whole idea was. Fortunately (for me), it was applied to every year starting after I did (I was in the last year who could live dangerously and have...shock-horror, a neon-pink backpack or a bright blue shoulder bag).

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rowanberries
2008-04-28 08:05 pm UTC (link)

*Nods* We had an 'official' retailer, too, for our blazers and stuff, then basically went to M&S or wherever for skirts or trousers. What sucked was that the girl's shirts were bright apple green. Gross. The boys, of course, wore white ones, but then they had to wear ties.

I would have preferred the tie option.

We used to get so outraged by the whole concept... you know, when we were twelve-thirteen.

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lozbabie
2008-04-29 12:42 pm UTC (link)

That sounds simillar to my school. We had the kilts, the dresses, the bags, the hats and the school swimmers. Which everyone had to wear at the swimming carnival. We had sports socks that had to be worn, but thankfully they didn't make them compuslry every day for the girls until after I left. (the junior boys all had knee socks, so it could have been worse! Which were 'compulsory' to wear up at all times outside the school. It was always fun to watch the rush to pull them up before the bus entered the grounds every morning, or the rush at the end of the day) Blazers were comulsry, and had different piping for the boys to differentiate them. Which most of the parents hated because they couldn't be passed down to younger siblings of the oppisite sex.

When I started the school wouldn't let us wear our sports uniforms outside school, so everyone would have to bring their sports uniform in seperatly (in the school regulation sports bag of course!), change for sport, than change at the end of the day. *shudders*

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tintagel
2008-04-28 06:52 pm UTC (link)

Grah! *jealous* I went to a school where you HAD HAD HAD to have the clothes via a specific manufacturer, blazer (which you could NEVER TAKE OFF until the teacher said so--yes, even in summer), skirts (til year 8, when they changed the rules to incorporate trousers which looked like two sacks sewn together), and a 'saxe blue' shirt.

I've never seen 'saxe blue' as a colour since. I think they just made it up.

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