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	rowanberries 2008-04-30 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	... Well damn, obviously I'm just not trying hard enough. Nobody at Uni ever sues me for disagreeing with them. I have a newfound appreciation for my professors. shakes head (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rosehiptea 2008-04-30 07:58 pm UTC (link)
	The last time I disagreed with a professor I got embarrassed and dropped the class. Clearly I didn't put my back into it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rowanberries 2008-04-30 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	And that's why she should have broken out the old 'Well, that's one interpretation, but...' She's the one with the doctorate/teaching qualification/whatever. If she really felt she had to save face, it should not have been difficult. How do you get that far without learning to take criticism? In conclusion: she should lurk moar. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rosehiptea 2008-04-30 08:33 pm UTC (link)
	Couldn't she just given them bad grades and then told them it was because they didn't grasp the material? [/sarcasm] I kind of wonder what she actually said and what the student actually said if the whole class really did applaud. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tangentialone 2008-04-30 08:37 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I would have liked to see more of these horrible, horrible eval forms. (Reply to this)(Parent)

mydemand
2008-04-30 10:49 pm UTC (link)

Couldn't she just given them bad grades and then told them it was because they didn't grasp the material?

That actually happened to me a couple of times, because I tried to address some things outside the norm. Apparently the only valid youth subculture in the world is emo, and using theatre as part of a bigger social activist program a.l.a. Vagina Monologues isn't innovative enough! or something.

/rant

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	rosehiptea 2008-05-01 06:28 am UTC (link)
	But the Vagina Monologues never causes discussion or controversy, silly! (I don't always get academia either. There are times I'm kind of glad I went to a straightforward commuter school.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mydemand 2008-05-01 06:30 am UTC (link)
	Finally someone that understands me! I don't get academia either; don't get me started on how most "academia" undergrads are exposed to are from old white men, and anything beyond that is "exotic"... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rosehiptea 2008-04-30 08:54 pm UTC (link)
	Reading further it appears it was supposed to be a class in how to write essays. Apparently these courses have a very different approach from the ones I've taken, and I can honestly appreciate that, but I'm starting to understand why having to get into heavy political discourse at all was ticking people off. (Reply to this)(Parent)

jerel
2008-05-01 01:30 am UTC (link)

I teach English, and my most useful teaching phrase is "Okay, yes, that's another way of looking at it." And then I ask the student (nicely) how s/he came to that conclusion.

The way to get students to learn is not by lording it over them. No one is going to listen to a tyrant. You let them know that you have more experience in the subject material, but that you don't claim there is only one answer or that you even have all the answers.

It's amazing what students will do for you when you treat them like people and not peons.

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	magic_lilybean 2008-05-03 03:42 pm UTC (link)
	I teach English, and my most useful teaching phrase is "Okay, yes, that's another way of looking at it." And then I ask the student (nicely) how s/he came to that conclusion. I've always been awed by professors who can do that. Many's the time I've wanted to take a student by the shoulders and shake the crap out of them, and I'm just another student. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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