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sevendeadlyfun ([info]sevendeadlyfun) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-06-26 17:39:00


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Entry tags:childfree, defensiveness ahoy, flounce, sexism, still not funny, think of the children, unfunny_business, urge to kill rising, why otf_wank is depressing

Childfree Wank
Poor [info]cf_ioan is having a bad day. Over at the Childfreez, she posts about how an "idiot moo cunt" she is acquainted with "fortunately...miscarried". She does not receive acclaim for this viewpoint.



Other posters express surprise at the vehemence of her viewpoint: " You don't need to bow down to the pity party. Just mind your business. Who cares if she is a moo bitch? She is experiencing a TRAUMA, and it's sad for HER."-Fishmama

She responds (as MerlynHerne): This bitch works for wal-mart--most people who work there are white trash. Glad you have time to carry on over this hillbilly. Just more breeder mooing and lowing. Maybe her fellow idiots can pray to Jay-sus! In my book white trash breeders and their melodramas don't rate ooing and lowing.

This, surprisingly, does not endear the OP to her fellow board members.

WeaverSong: "Showing compassion to someone who's experienced a loss it not breeder pleasing. It's being human."

Of course, this attitude is only because they're all women: " Fuck you. Go kiss breeder ass! You all suck. Just what I expected..I notice no men posted on here..mybe they're less ruled by their hormones."

There is a flounce followed by a graceless unflouncing. But only because she needs to tell everyone that she's found better friends to hang with:

" I don't have to. I found a more congenial group of CF'ers. I will also ask [SO] to check out this board. Leave the breeder pleasers to themseles."

So the whole story, bitterness and all, is transferred over to [info]cf_hardcore. Second verse same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse because now, the OP has the drama from the first board to chew over as well:

"Apparently I am inhumane because I don't see how she SUFFERED losing both babies."

Cue the world's smallest violins as [info]cf_hardcore's members sit down to the feast:

[info]sleep_monger replies:
I'm in agreement that she shouldn't have had a child, absolutely. I also can't understand why people build their houses right next to a flood zone. That said, I feel sorry for both a grieving mother and a farmer who's lost his life's work.

[info]z3ncat points out that since the CF community would like to have its choices respect, those who choose to have children should receive the same respect.

While [info]cf_ioan is fending off the common sense and Earth Logicâ„¢ of the [info]cf_hardcore crowd, another rabid poster shows up to complain about the lack of respect the childfree in general show parents.

There's a few calls of troll followed by a few users who believe their parents should never have had children. But most of the users seem content to point and laugh without throwing out any fresh meat. This is not the case over at Childfreez where they are still happily tearing [info]cf_ioan apart.

ETA: The banhammer has fallen on [info]cf_ioan. Woe.



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[info]ayezur
2008-06-27 03:54 am UTC (link)
Okay, I might be behind the curve here, but childfree: virtual synonym for self-absorbed hateful assmonkeys who feel cheated by the universe because they never got that pony confirm/deny?

A note, before the drama: I am referring only to those who adopt the term, not to those who simply choose not to have kids.

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[info]kadath
2008-06-27 04:06 am UTC (link)
Nah. I'm cheerfully childfree and don't regard other people's reproductive decisions as a personal affront. Of course, I may be the only one in the world, but one's all it takes to disprove an hypothesis! ;)

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[info]smashingstars
2008-06-27 04:21 am UTC (link)
Nope, there's plenty of us, but the rude CFers are why we can't have nice things. I use the term "childfree" to describe myself, and that usually means people immediately assume I'm a "self-absorbed hateful assmonkey" etc. etc. *shrug*

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[info]kadath
2008-06-27 04:28 am UTC (link)
This must be how Christians feel when Pat Robertson opens his mouth.

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(no subject) - [info]shinga, 2008-06-27 02:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2008-06-27 03:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2008-06-28 07:52 am UTC

findchaem
2008-06-27 12:54 pm UTC (link)
I was startled recently when Snopes claimed that childfree has replaced childless for those who just don't want kids - I really do not hear the word "childfree" offline, or see it in formal writing.

I suppose I'd count as childfree - I don't have kids and don't plan to. I guess I think of "childfree" meaning "I'm part of this community", or even "I'm part of this movement", and I wouldn't describe myself in those terms, so I don't use the word.

... I'm afraid I'm going to start sounding like one of those people who says "I hate labels". You know, the ones who only object to labels when they're used to discuss groups they disapprove of.

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(no subject) - [info]smashingstars, 2008-06-27 10:23 pm UTC

[info]kerryblaze
2008-06-27 05:50 am UTC (link)
Not the only. Hell, I adore kids. I love when my friends have them. I just don't want one of my own.

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[info]rachelmap
2008-06-27 09:50 am UTC (link)
Too true. They're adorable in small doses, but I can only take so much of them. Happy to play with them; happy to hand 'em back to Mom or Dad when the time's up.

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[info]abharding
2008-06-27 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Same here. I adore my niece and nephews, but I would not want to be parent full time. It just to much work.


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[info]velvet_mace
2008-06-27 04:41 am UTC (link)
I've heard the word "freetard" being used to distinguish between those who choose not to be parents and those throw internet tantrums because someone somewhere chose to be a parent.

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2008-06-27 05:52 am UTC (link)
Hon, childfree means people who choose not to have kids. What you're thinking of is "thoroughly unpleasant screaming ass monkeys who happen to hide their issues behind the childfree label."

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[info]vzg
2008-06-27 07:06 am UTC (link)
Although I don't frequently read these communities, it is the impression they give me.

That said, plenty of CF folks aren't in those comms, and I'm sure some of those who are aren't spending all their time bragging and patting themselves on the back for loathing the kiddies.

My roommate was childfree, but only because she thought she'd make a terrible parent anyway.

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[info]catmoran
2008-06-27 03:04 pm UTC (link)
I'm in the cf_hardcore comm; I don't think I'm a hateful assmonkey.

I save my contempt for the hardcore Quiverfull nuts and people who won't bother to parent their offspring. The former sort of scare the crap out of me. And the latter are not to be confused with parents who are completely overwhelmed -- they may have "made their bed", but I still have some sympathy for them. Even if their kid is kicking my airline seat.

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[info]wtf
2008-06-27 07:15 pm UTC (link)
As a parent, I have to say ILU for your views. ♥

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[info]lysana
2008-06-27 11:46 pm UTC (link)
*ding*ding*ding*ding*ding*

We have a winner!

/childfree woman who likes kids in limited doses

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[info]annaham
2008-06-28 12:53 am UTC (link)
This, exactly.

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(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2008-06-28 05:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]catmoran, 2008-06-28 01:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]insanityprelude, 2008-07-04 12:12 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2008-06-27 08:40 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that's a big generalization you just painted there, but I can't fault you for thinking that way. :/

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[info]darth_ember
2008-06-27 11:05 am UTC (link)
Confirm/deny?

Denied. Childfree's my decision, not one everyone needs. I'd suck as a parent. ^^

As someone mentioned above, the term you want for the crazies is 'freetard'.

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[info]msmanna
2008-06-27 11:43 am UTC (link)
childfree: virtual synonym for self-absorbed hateful assmonkeys who feel cheated by the universe because they never got that pony confirm/deny?

People who largely define themselves by not doing something do seem to tend towards the crazy. There are plenty of people out there who might call themselves childfree if asked, like there are plenty of people who would call themselves atheists. But the ones who're really invested in it as an identity, and want to hang out on communities and talk about it over and over, they're often at least teetering on the top of a slippery slip leading down to a big stinkin' heap of batshit.

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[info]ayezur
2008-06-27 02:40 pm UTC (link)
That's what I was trying to express. The people who identify with the label, they're all... you know. Blech. With the screaming.

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tree
2008-06-27 03:14 pm UTC (link)
People who largely define themselves by not doing something do seem to tend towards the crazy.

I'd sooner say that people who largely define themselves by belonging to any kind of group, be it about doing something or not doing something, tend towards the crazy.

The only difference that I can see is that those who belong in the doing camp tend to insist on getting others to join their club, whereas those who belong with the non-doing camp tend to go on about how annoyed they are with the first group, and don bingo cards. And then the first group goes on about being threatened, to which the second group goes on about being oppressed. And it all ends in an orgy.

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(no subject) - [info]msmanna, 2008-06-27 03:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - tree, 2008-06-27 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2008-06-27 08:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]msmanna, 2008-06-28 01:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-06-29 03:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]funwithrage, 2008-06-30 04:56 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2008-06-27 06:29 pm UTC (link)
And the ironic thing, of course, is that by defining their identity around an absence of something, they are condemning their entire existence to be about that very thing.

This sort of occurred to me a while back during a cross-pollination wank; Cute Overload wank got linked over to cf_hardcore because it was a video of *gasp!* a human baby.

Soooo... because somebody felt the need to share their outrage, the people at cf_hardcore got exposed to a video of a cute baby that they likely never would have seen, otherwise.

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[info]knightrider
2008-06-27 03:21 pm UTC (link)
I refer to myself as CF and I don't use the mean names or "feel cheated by the universe because [I] never got that pony". I hang out on the CF board, not CF_H board because I like the discussions about reproductive freedom, legal issues, tips on various social situations, social mores etc AND sometimes you need to get into a safe space to talk about things like that. It's amazing how people will try to force their belief that breeding=meaning of life/destiny/What You Should Be Doing With Your Life etc and the CF board is one of the places where you're guaranteed to not be subjected to that mentality. I must say I skip over most of the posts like this one.

However, sure, if you like, I'm a self-absorbed hateful assmonkey. I guess I can deal.

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[info]smashingstars
2008-06-27 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm not quite getting why someone who calls themselves "childfree" is "crazy" or suffering from a "philosophical void" or always an "assmonkey" or whatever.

It seems to me that a lot of the anti-CF crap that places like the CF board talk about is going on right here in this thread, with very little awareness of the irony therein.

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[info]moonjaguar
2008-06-27 06:26 pm UTC (link)
It's been that bad for years, to where I qualify my childless-by-choice/childfreeness with "I don't hate kids. I just don't want to have any."

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[info]out_bottle
2008-07-01 10:09 pm UTC (link)
Deny.

Originally, "childfree" was used to describe not having children by choice, because "childless" seemed to be a term of pity.

I notice that "childfree" only has the hint of crazy on the internet. In RL people use it all the time, at least where I'm at.

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