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My home planet is dead! ([info]trisandrockets) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-07-27 15:06:00


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Entry tags:it's not easy wanking green, seattle

It's gone critical!
Or, competition to be the most self-righteous of all!

So in Seattle on Friday night there was the monthly Critical Mass event. (For those who don't know Critical Mass, it's a biking event where a large group of bikers mass together and bike through a city.) It took a violent turn when an annoyed driver hit some of the cyclists, then had his car attacked and got beaten up himself when he came out of his car. Yes, that is not funny, but it gets there, really.

The Slog, the blog of Seattle's alt-weekly the Stranger, picked up the story on Saturday. And that's where it gets generally entertaining.

The first post originally was just a mention of it happening, but was then edited to contain two conflicting eyewitness reports. And that's when the comments start, as well. Many have some irritated things to say about Critical Mass. Many people have critical things to say about the people who have critical things to say about Critical Mass. Some people are just being dicks.

Extremely pro-biking (and general troll-magnet, whatever she posts on Slog) writer Erica C. Barnett makes her first post, and there's more comment grumpiness, as well as a bit of name-calling. Fairly tame.

Another writer, Jonothan Golob, rants about the actual street that this took place on. More bitching. Check out Samantha at 25- she's copy-pasted her (rather long) rant into each comment.

Now, Erica has an opinion. As do the people in the comments- I'm particularly fond of the exchange between comments 16 and 30:
Also: why are so many slog commentators so hostile to bicyclists, to critical mass, and to anything that smacks of even mild civil disobedience? It seems like the majority of comments come from people with barely disguised vigilante fantasies, which is scary.
Posted by Trevor | July 26, 2008 8:52 PM

@16 "mild civil disobedience"??? What bullshit. You obviously know NOTHING about civil disobedience.

God, bring back the good old days of ACT UP! and Queer Nation and the like when people were performing acts of civil disobedience FOR A PURPOSE.

Your CM parades are no more of a "civil disobedience" than online petitions demanding the return of One Calorie Diet Coke to your local Fred Meyer.


Another eyewitness report! And he's a lawyer. Comment irritation approaching...uh, large amounts.

This eyewitness also claims that no one 'surrounded' the driver. In this comment thread, a new version of Godwin's Law is called for, probably as a result of this...

I agree with #24. Critical Mass is more of a local terrorist group than any sort of "civil" disobedience group and should be treated as such. Your terrorist tactics are made even more dangerous by your mob mentality and lack of leadership. I'm sure you'll ALL come forward in your pot-smoke smelling rags and plead your case as the down-trodden underdogs who pedal for peace instead of drive to fuel the oil companies pockets. But, that doesn't give you the right to beat drivers to death because you don't like them. We don't like you either. Posted by WestSeattleCyclist | July 27, 2008 9:34 AM
DING DING DING. Is there a Godwin's Law corollary for "terrorist"? If so, we have a winner!
Posted by pox | July 27, 2008 9:45 AM


Finally, this morning, Slog got a report from the driver. It's worth reading mostly for this phrase, of the driver describing the situation: “I’m gay, the person with me was a lesbian and we were a attacked by eco-terrorists. It’s the most Seattle thing that could have happened." Most commenters like the driver's statement more than the Critical Mass eyewitnesses, since he says he's sorry, at least in the first few comments. Then, they start bickering over how he could have not known he was in first gear. And then it goes in several different directions of wank.

A commenter relates a very long story about how his friend once pulled a knife on a driver that tried to hit him, which was apparently the right thing to do in that situation. Someone else disagrees. They debate who is a dumbass.

In another continuing theme, The charming skeptic thinks that everyone against Critical Mass is a cop. Like Porkchop Sandwiches, who thinks that Critical Mass might be breaking the law by blocking traffic all the time. Skeptic thinks Porkchop is definitely a cop, because why else would he think that's a problem?

There's also the continuing theme of Critical Mass as some form of civil disobedience- Judah, who posted the story about his friend pulling a knife on the driver, compares cyclists/CM participants to King, Gandhi, and the Black Panthers. He then gets called a sanctimonious fucker. Another call for a new corollary of Godwin's Law- this time about groups comparing themselves to Civil Rights groups (he may have a point there). Judah does not like people making fun of him, and tries to win obscurity points by instead comparing the situation to pea growers v. corn growers in central Washington, while also calling one of his critics an 'argumentative little weasel'.

In the latest Slog post, Erica suggests that readers contact local media to complain. Some attacks on Erica's journalistic integrity ensue. rb is still wondering what Critical Mass protests have ever actually done, which causes another commenter to snap back asking what any parade has ever done? rb responds by saying, at least they have permits, and also do these things.

Skeptic still thinks everyone against him is a cop. #7 Rider thinks Skeptic is being a jerk. Skeptic does not believe that #7 Rider really rides the bus, because the only proof that Skeptic has is that #7 Rider says he/she rides the bus.

Gadfly says that everyone- cyclist, driver, cops, media- fails on an epic scale.

I am inclined to agree with him.

And this is likely to be ongoing. Just wait until it's Monday and all the regulars get back...

And, if Slog isn't enough, bonus wank from pishbadlarr: the Seattle community at Livejournal and lots of it on the seattlebikes community as well.

but wait! there's more! (from [info]quartz): wank in the comments from another blog, including corking = kidnapping/false imprisonment! (Side note: man, bikers are angry at those Critical Mass sorts, aren't they?)



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[info]tunxeh
2008-07-28 12:43 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, that was a little long and complicated and confusing. Did you say something about drivers named porkchop pulling knives?

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[info]chibikaijuu
2008-07-28 12:44 am UTC (link)
Is it weird that when you say "Porkchop" the first thing I picture is Doug's dog?

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(no subject) - [info]zara_zero, 2008-07-28 03:50 am UTC

[info]trisandrockets
2008-07-28 01:51 am UTC (link)
Sorry. It's a long, complicated, and confusing wank, as Slog wanks often are, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

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(no subject) - [info]franzen, 2008-07-28 02:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]trisandrockets, 2008-07-28 02:16 am UTC

[info]chibikaijuu
2008-07-28 12:45 am UTC (link)
FUCKING CRITICAL MASS.

Many drivers are assholes, but they don't get together in a giant group to show us just how entitled they are.

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(no subject) - [info]sneer, 2008-07-28 01:00 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-07-28 01:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2008-07-28 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-07-28 01:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-07-28 01:38 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]serai, 2008-07-29 02:06 am UTC

[info]zinkchan
2008-07-28 12:58 am UTC (link)
I wonder if anyone on there actually has ridden the #7? Because all of my great, insane bus rider stories come from riding the #7 (and the #48).

Also, while I understand Critical Mass' message, a lot of the people I know who are part of the movement are self-righteous douche bags and that really doesn't do much to help their cause. They shouldn't be hit by cars, but they could stand to have people politely tell them that riding a bike doesn't make you a superior human being.

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-07-28 01:30 am UTC
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[info]squeakthemouse
2008-07-28 01:02 am UTC (link)
Ho'shit, this is a long wank report. But then, that's a whole lot of wank.

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(no subject) - [info]trisandrockets, 2008-07-28 01:50 am UTC

pishbadlarr
2008-07-28 01:17 am UTC (link)
Bonus wank on lj comms seattle and a bunch of posts on seattlebikes.

The whole thing makes me frownyface. :(

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-07-28 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]trisandrockets, 2008-07-28 01:53 am UTC

[info]franzen
2008-07-28 02:09 am UTC (link)
It’s the most Seattle thing that could have happened.

Now that's debatable. I see no mention of the fact the two were clutching customized Starbucks Vivannos and playing Death Cab for Cutie.

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(no subject) - [info]trisandrockets, 2008-07-28 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zinkchan, 2008-07-28 10:25 pm UTC

[info]mmanurere
2008-07-28 02:49 am UTC (link)
Is this one of those arguments where the motorcycle and scooter people get to be on the fence?

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(no subject) - [info]shaysdays, 2008-07-28 05:54 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]shaysdays, 2008-07-28 07:12 pm UTC
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[info]vzg
2008-07-28 02:59 am UTC (link)
At first I thought they were arguing about motorcyclists versus the driver and all that, and then I realize they weren't and felt very sad for everyone.

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(no subject) - [info]bobafeis, 2008-07-28 09:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lirazel, 2008-07-28 05:54 pm UTC

[info]catremistrae
2008-07-28 03:08 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure about Seattle, but in Portland there seems to be two types of bicyclists.

The first type wear their cycling outfits, right down to the shoes that slip onto the pedals. They signal, go with the flow of traffic, have lights that make them easy to see, WEAR HELMETS, and so on. I like those people. I'm happy to give them their fair share of the road.

The other type are the ones that pedal down the center of the road, change direction without warning, think that traffic laws don't apply to them, and get pissed at drivers that try to avoid them. I appreciate that they are doing their part for the planet, but even cyclists have to follow traffic laws! It's people like that who give cyclists a bad name, and irritate drivers.

So, final note: HELMETS!

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(no subject) - [info]moosecharmer, 2008-07-28 04:00 am UTC
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[info]quartz
2008-07-28 03:41 am UTC (link)
http://sweetbike.org/?p=184 has more wank in the comments, as well as several links to other blogs with other accounts of what happened. There's even a discussion in the comments talking about "corking" = false imprisonment/kidnapping. No internet lawyers have shown up there as of yet.

From the seattlebikes community, Anonymous speaking:
"it is likely that there were fascist agente provocateurs infiltrated into the Critical Mass Seattle Biker Chapter. The fascists and protofascists disguised themselves in the conformist uniform of the psuedo-anarchist fashionistas (ones that dont actually read the history of their own purported movement or its historical authors such as Kropotkin and Bakunin (the Russian Anticommunist Anarchists from Russian nobility.)"

*snickers* It was all the fault of the fascists!

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(no subject) - [info]erototoxin, 2008-07-28 08:03 am UTC
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[info]sepiamagpie
2008-07-28 03:53 am UTC (link)
it took me just a bit too long to realize we were talking about cyclists and not, say, Hell's Angels.

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(no subject) - [info]shaysdays, 2008-07-28 05:58 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]silrana, 2008-07-28 11:55 am UTC

[info]moosecharmer
2008-07-28 03:54 am UTC (link)
Your CM parades are no more of a "civil disobedience" than online petitions demanding the return of One Calorie Diet Coke to your local Fred Meyer.

I think THIS is the most Seattle thing that could have happened, or at least the most northwesty thing ever uttered.

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(no subject) - [info]feenix, 2008-07-28 04:24 am UTC
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[info]rosalita
2008-07-28 03:57 am UTC (link)
No one deserves to be run over, but when are these morons going to learn that blocking traffic at rush hour is not going to win them any fans?

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[info]kagutaba
2008-07-28 05:10 am UTC (link)
You know, I understand sharing the road with cyclists, even if they scare the crap out of me, but CM's just making them look stupid. This is most likely going to hurt their cause instead of help it.

Is it terrible I was waiting to hear someone compare themselves to Rosa Parks over this shit? Because I was.

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[info]doomsday
2008-07-28 05:31 am UTC (link)
Oh, Seattle, I love you and your wanky self.

Also, thoughts on cyclists.

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[info]pandonkey
2008-07-28 05:58 am UTC (link)
How weird to see a wank about that event right after learning of its existence (through experiencing it firsthand, although not in Seattle). It did not leave me feeling positively toward bike riders, that's for damn sure.

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[info]frequentmouse
2008-07-28 07:38 am UTC (link)
So when will The Stranger blame the whole thing on Dino Rossi?

I knew somebody would have to find a way to blame Gregoire...


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[info]dragonfangirl
2008-07-28 10:35 am UTC (link)
Why... why did I hurt myself by reading those comments? X_X Good fucking god. Way to convince me that the next time I go out on the streets on my bike, I'm going to be run down by a psycho motorist for committing the crime of not driving a gasoline powered vehicle. @__@

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(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2008-07-28 03:17 pm UTC
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[info]brown_betty
2008-07-28 03:28 pm UTC (link)
OMG, you have a Wonderella icon!

Sorry, this wank was too long for my short attention span, but I admire your icon.

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[info]nightfalltwen
2008-07-28 03:36 pm UTC (link)
Ahahaha Seattle drivers.

*cackles*

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[info]damien
2008-07-28 05:06 pm UTC (link)
...I was convinced until I read the word 'eco-terrorists' that we were talking about motorbike drivers here. I really was.

Imagining a mob of thin-armed vegan cyclists mobbing someone in a car is actually kind of a funny mental image. Mostly because I imagine them as sort of just clinging to the car's outside and making Indignant Faces of Moral Superiority.

*going to hell*

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[info]julesnoctambule
2008-07-28 05:35 pm UTC (link)
It happened in Virginia, I believe, but reading this story the same day I first read about the CM drama made it doubly good for me: http://consumerist.com/5029679/disagree-with-walmarts-bike-policy-take-off-your-clothes-in-protest

I was really surprised to find out it wasn't Portland or Seattle.

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(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-07-29 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julesnoctambule, 2008-07-29 03:50 am UTC

[info]frequentmouse
2008-07-28 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Because nobody at [info]seattle has the ability to let go of their wanky bits

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-07-28 11:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]splorch, 2008-07-29 09:15 pm UTC

 
   
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