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A purple bisexual riding a non-existent camel ([info]alya1989262) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-07-28 22:33:00


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Entry tags:censorship, childfree, language, small but tasty, think of the children

Scalzi snarks people, story at 11
So Scalzi makes a post about receiving a boring email from "one of those nutbag childfree folks". Gretchen shows up and takes exception to his description of childfree people. To which Scalzi responds by basically telling her to shut the hell up. There is some back and forth between the two of them, before the thread turns to a discussion of childfree lifestyle between other commenters.

That is, until electric_bonzai jumps in, presumably linked from cf_hardcore. Several commenters respond to tell them how wrong, wrong and utterly wrong cf people are.

Scalzi makes a second post, snarking both Gretchen and, especially, the person who commented on cf_hardcore with a "lesson" for him. The snark is, as always, delicious:

spitzandeyeball: 1. Internets 101: When you publish something on a public blog and neglect to disable the comment function, you have already given readers your permission to reply. This little slice of Internet magic is also known as the First Amendment.

Scalzi: Reading this person’s understanding of how the First Amendment applies in these instances is like being slathered in a thick coat of ignorant, and then being put out into the sun to dry out before a second coat is applied, which itself will be topped off by a sealant of complete and utter stupid, and lightly drizzled with a glistening varnish of epic fail.

More comments from people baffled at the thought of a childfree comm. Baffled, I tell you.

Back at the first post, Scalzi and Gretchen make up, though that doesn't stop people from continuing to share their thoughts over multiple comments.



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[info]puipui
2008-07-28 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Reading this person’s understanding of how the First Amendment applies in these instances is like being slathered in a thick coat of ignorant, and then being put out into the sun to dry out before a second coat is applied, which itself will be topped off by a sealant of complete and utter stupid, and lightly drizzled with a glistening varnish of epic fail.

I love him. I love him so much. *loves*

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[info]coyotegirl
2008-07-29 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Not fond of the man, but that comment is just made of so much win.

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[info]sisterelwood
2008-07-28 08:41 pm UTC (link)
I'm just going to be in my corner, fangirling Scalzi for his smack-down on people who don't get the First Amendment.

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[info]the__ivorytower
2008-07-28 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Freedom of Expression is so abused. It needs nice comfort sex from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms (or, I suppose, the Constitution. Maybe both?)

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[info]nonnyeve
2008-07-28 11:56 pm UTC (link)
Hottest threesome ever!

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[info]worstangel
2008-07-29 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Hottest FREEsome.

hur hur.

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[info]gynocrat
2008-07-28 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I'm loving his art of weaving 84's Duran Duran and Stalin into the same blanket. Beautiful.

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[info]hangingfire
2008-07-28 09:33 pm UTC (link)
I find Angelle @81 to be strangely adorable:

Who in the high holy hells would troll Cute Overload?!? Were these people mauled by Pomeranians as children?

I had thought it was common knowledge that there is not a single person, place, or thing on the internets that wouldn't draw a troll eventually. The fact that anyone could believe that a site is troll-free (especially Cute Overload) warms the cockles of my jaded, cynical heart.

And also: yeah, no-one brings the smackdown like Scalzi.

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[info]msmanna
2008-07-29 12:17 am UTC (link)
Cuteness draws trolls. They can smell it from miles away. Rec.pets.cats, home of kittie in-character meowchat, was one of the hardest trolled places on usenet.

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[info]notjo
2008-07-29 01:19 am UTC (link)
Woe, poor wee kitties!

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[info]lady_jafaria
2008-07-30 05:40 am UTC (link)
No matter how small or wank free you think your blog or other site is, some arse will always be along to troll it. Hell, I've hardly been involved in any wank and I've had trolls.

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nam_jai
2008-07-28 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Scalzi's second post was a thing of beauty.

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[info]khym_chanur
2008-07-28 10:53 pm UTC (link)
Editing! Gerunds! Death!

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[info]mistal
2008-07-28 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Im sorry, Im distracted by the Giraffe-free.

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[info]gunshou
2008-07-29 12:10 am UTC (link)
While I love Scalzi's sarcasm and give him a great big word on that whole 1st Amendment thing, wtf with this exchange?

CJ-in-Weldon
Why do people pick fights with professional writers in written fora?

John Scalzi
They forget we’re experts, I suppose.


Because no one else in the whole wide world has the grasp on language that a sci-fi writer has. Does Scalzi also go sans editor? AMAZING, I SAY, since I could never express myself with such eloquence as a professional writer. Whatever.

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[info]alya1989262
2008-07-29 12:13 am UTC (link)
Scalzi is kind of an ass. A funny ass.

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[info]notjo
2008-07-29 01:20 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm afraid I've never quite gotten over his defense of the OSBP.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2008-07-29 02:43 am UTC (link)
Yeah - up until then, I thought he was pretty awesome, but now I seem to see him being kind of an ass more and more often.

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[info]come_love_sleep
2008-07-30 04:34 am UTC (link)
The which? Google is not useful.

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[info]notjo
2008-07-30 04:39 am UTC (link)
Open Source Boob Project. If you decide to read it all, pack a lunch. ;)

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[info]come_love_sleep
2008-07-30 04:41 am UTC (link)
Ahh, yes. I just didn't recognize the acronym.

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[info]kuromitsu
2008-07-30 11:53 am UTC (link)
I just skimmed it, but... THE HELL?

Good thing I completely missed it, even the idea makes me smolder with Righterous Feminist Rage. Argh.

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[info]jerel
2008-08-01 10:08 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it was pretty wanky. From the initial post, I had 2 thoughts. One was "Boy, that was a horrid idea" and the other was "The wank on this will be epic."

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[info]msmanna
2008-07-29 12:19 am UTC (link)
I suspect that deep down a lot professional writers are really like Giles Coren. They just hide it better.

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[info]zyna_kat
2008-07-29 12:33 am UTC (link)
I loved this comment:

Tullyon
When my uncle came home on leave from Korea my Grandma gave him dad’s room and made dad sleep on the couch. The Third Amendment argument availed him not.

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[info]miss_padfoot
2008-07-30 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Hee! That's the best comment I've seen in a long time.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2008-07-29 01:07 am UTC (link)
Eh, he was vaguely douchey in his original post, but the fact that everybody got so up in arms about it just means fail on all amusing fronts. :)

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[info]notjo
2008-07-29 01:30 am UTC (link)
I wonder if the next time some useless twit comes along to talk about OMG!CENSORSHIP I can just throw them at Scalzi's post for my appeal to authority. Apparently my womanly-ness means I don't understand complicated words like "censor" and "rights".

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[info]xero_sky
2008-07-29 03:32 am UTC (link)
this person is just absolutely, completely, ice-pick-to the-eyeballs wrong

*jots phrase down for future use*

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[info]frequentmouse
2008-07-29 07:44 am UTC (link)
It makes my ears pop when the people in the cf_hardcore thread put Scalzi on the same list as Orson Scott Card.

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[info]lysana
2008-07-31 09:24 pm UTC (link)
That is an impressive amount of butthurt right there.

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[info]frequentmouse
2008-07-31 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Indeed. I'm pretty sure Scalzi's opinion on gay marriage differs in every aspect from OSC's writings on the subject

(Warning, non-equivalent links. May be an indication of bias or something, but mostly laziness).

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[info]belafarinrod
2008-07-29 10:19 pm UTC (link)
I enjoy reading Neil Gaiaman's answers to stupid people because he usually has such class and manages to show how silly they are without becoming impolite.

I enjoy reading Scalzi because he's a vicious, but very funny, ass to the idiots on the internet. Two different tastes of smackdown, but both enjoyable

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[info]smashingstars
2008-08-01 12:16 am UTC (link)
Scalzi is an ass, but he's an ass who is occasionally right, like with the chronic and epic misunderstanding of the First Amendment. People just love to trot big ol' Scalzi quotes out whenever it suits them and ignore the more unseemly parts of Scalzi's personality. Personally, I'm tired of him and all the other entitled white male blogger-authors who spend their day telling people how to think.

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