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Full o' Doom ([info]doomsday) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-10-01 13:05:00


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Entry tags:authorwank, books, fun with fundies, inappropriate references to acts of god, it's not for you, pretention, religion, reviews

Intelligently designed wank
Who's in the mood for a good ol' academic tussle?

1. Professor Steve Fuller writes a book called Dissent over Descent: Intelligent Design's Challenge to Darwinism.

2. Professor AC Grayling reviews the book for New Humanist magazine.

It is sometimes hard to know whether books that strike one as silly and irresponsible...are the product of a desire to strike a pose and appear outrageous (the John Gray syndrome), or really do represent that cancer of the contemporary intellect, post-modernism.

3. Fuller responds to the review.
I wish I could repay AC Grayling’s compliment by naming an exotic mental pathology after him, but regrettably his review of Dissent over Descent displays disorders of a much more mundane kind: he has merely failed to read the book properly and does not know what he is talking about.

4. Grayling responds to the response.
Steve Fuller complains, as do all authors whose books are panned, that I did not read his book properly (or at all). Alas, I did.

5. Forum fight!


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[info]jkefka
2008-10-01 09:49 pm UTC (link)
Ha! I like how they've completely ditched civility and gone straight to condescension. This is almost as entertaining as watching two PhD's have a slapfight.

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[info]feenix
2008-10-02 02:18 am UTC (link)
Honey, this is two PhD's having a slapfight. I think.

Either way, I love this wank so much. It's been so long since I've seen the pretentious form of wank, and Grayling and Fuller bring it in droves.

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2008-10-02 03:27 am UTC
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[info]senor_pinata
2008-10-01 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Steve Fuller complains, as do all authors whose books are panned, that I did not read his book properly (or at all).

Ain't that the truth.

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[info]kadath
2008-10-01 09:52 pm UTC (link)
"Origin of the specious" is simultaneously an awesome title, pun, reference, and burn.

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(no subject) - [info]vito_excalibur, 2008-10-02 07:42 am UTC

[info]hristaesir
2008-10-01 10:20 pm UTC (link)
He's just interrogating the text from the wrong perspective!

I love when people act like if you don't agree with them you're not really listening. And by "love" I mean "want to fly through the air and punch in the face".

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(no subject) - [info]pocketfox, 2008-10-02 12:48 am UTC
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[info]watersword
2008-10-01 10:55 pm UTC (link)
God</em>damn</em>, but this is awesome.

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[info]sevendeadlyfun
2008-10-01 10:59 pm UTC (link)
Not only is there the full, luscious beauty of interrogating the text from the wrong perspective but there's Buddhist scorn. I love academia wank.

Love. It.

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2008-10-02 03:28 am UTC
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[info]chikane
2008-10-01 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Anyone who uses Darwinism in this context fails. What is gravity then, Newtonism?

But then, it's an attempt of rewriting history in a way it wasn't, so what can I expect? XD

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(no subject) - [info]spacelogic, 2008-10-02 01:23 am UTC
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[info]aeka
2008-10-02 01:06 am UTC (link)
IDT's proponents have upheld, often secretly, radical views of Christianity, taking literally the Biblical idea that humans have been created in God's image.

Proving that God does in fact look like us (assuming he exists at all) would be the only thing left to surprise me.

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[info]silrana
2008-10-02 01:15 am UTC (link)
Wait... people actually *read* New Humanist? I thought it was just a really pretentious book store shelf decoration.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2008-10-02 01:27 am UTC (link)
This is so beautiful, I think I'm going to cry.

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[info]napalmnacey
2008-10-02 01:34 am UTC (link)
I love it when people with vocabularies have a slap-down! *chills of glee*

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[info]mmanurere
2008-10-02 02:28 am UTC (link)
that cancer of the contemporary intellect, post-modernism.

You use that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

Looking up AC Grayling: Yup, he's a British philosopher. They make it a point of national pride to have no idea what postmodernism is.

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[info]jupiterpluvius
2008-10-02 04:00 am UTC (link)
Is it wrong that I get a shiny feeling in my heart when I see that this nitwit Fuller teaches at a decent UK university? Because I am so sick of people dismissing Intelligent Design idiocy as an "only in America" thing. HEE!

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[info]mcity
2008-10-02 05:50 am UTC (link)
6. CROOOW!

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(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2008-10-08 01:22 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2008-10-02 06:47 am UTC (link)
Wow, this is the first time I've read a wank where their wanking made me feel like an idiot. Too many big words ... *googly eyes*

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2008-10-02 10:00 am UTC (link)
Oo, I love it when a posh bloke talks dirty.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2008-10-02 10:32 am UTC (link)
I love this wank! The words are all poised and civil but the pattern is exactly the same as any half-baked fangirl tiff.

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[info]aristaea
2008-10-02 11:29 am UTC (link)
Dear Academia and assorted hangers-on,

Stop expressing "doubt" over the motives and legitimacy of ID and just say it: IDers are lying liars who lie and only interested in undermining scientific debate with truthiness. Treating them seriously makes it seem like they're, ya know, serious, when they're really only fanatically irrational. LESS LECTURES MOAR LOLZ!

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[info]quantumreality
2008-10-02 02:19 pm UTC (link)
The whole comments thread was rather funny in that why-did-they-waste-their-time-arguing-in-the-first-place kind of way.

But "ID is long on theorists. They must kill their experimentalists." was particularly sporfle-worthy.

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2008-10-02 03:25 pm UTC (link)
OMG I love this wank so much I think I want to have sex with it. Pretentious, post-modernist sex.

...On the other hand, they're all academics - and one of them appears to be a Christian Fundamentalist Academic. They may well have no idea what sex is.

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(no subject) - [info]negativecosine, 2008-10-02 07:18 pm UTC
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[info]stellar_dust
2008-10-02 07:34 pm UTC (link)
"I take it, on the evidence of his book, he has never had wisdom teeth: ...."

Oh, burn. XD

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[info]sabinelagrande
2008-10-03 08:06 am UTC (link)
...Show of hands, who ships Grayling/Fuller now?

God I fucking LOVE academia.

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(no subject) - [info]varethane, 2008-10-04 04:19 am UTC

[info]tangentialone
2008-10-05 05:43 am UTC (link)
Alas, I did.

Oh, burn. XD

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[info]serai
2008-10-05 07:16 pm UTC (link)
So, the whole thing can be boiled down to "I'm right and you're stupid, neener, neener, neener!" Only with $2 words.

Boring.

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(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2008-10-08 01:26 am UTC
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