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Dan Fogelberg's ([info]llama_treats) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2008-11-25 10:03:00


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Entry tags:community: techsupport, defensiveness ahoy, dictionaries are for losers, get your ampersands here, grammar and spelling, language

Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
A rocket scientist over in [info]techsupport seems to think that Americans invented the English language and that people in the UK and Australia don't speak English.

Good times.



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[info]hallidae
2008-11-25 04:23 pm UTC (link)
These wanks never fail to make me want to hide my head in shame, and I'm never sure whether it's the ethnocentric dumbassery on the OP's part, or the fact that it's inevitable that there will be a thread mocking the Southern accent, a branch of which I've got.

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[info]llama_treats
2008-11-25 04:26 pm UTC (link)
I think ethnocentric dumbassery trumps a "y'all" every time.

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[info]hallidae
2008-11-25 04:43 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. I mean, ethnocentric dumbass = ethnocentric dumbass. Shockingly enough, they exist all over the country. But every time one of these posts happens, there's always the automatic assumption that ethnocentric dumbass = southerner, like we're the only source of stupid in this entire nation.

... I think I'll go find a towel now.

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iwanttobeasleep
2008-11-25 05:12 pm UTC (link)
But they've never heard a Canadian be stupid before!

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(no subject) - [info]sevendeadlyfun, 2008-11-25 05:19 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2008-11-25 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2008-11-26 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-11-26 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2008-11-26 03:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2008-11-26 05:33 am UTC
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[info]hallidae
2008-11-25 04:45 pm UTC (link)
And I just realized that I wasn't even remotely responding to your comment. Coffee time, before I put my foot in my mouth again.

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[info]issendai
2008-11-25 05:26 pm UTC (link)
What in hell is wrong with "y'all" anyway? It fills a need that broadcaster English doesn't fill. Precision > accent snobbery.

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[info]kefanii
2008-11-25 05:32 pm UTC (link)
This! I had a German teacher who said she was glad she taught in the south, because it made ihr so much easier to teach since she could just say ihr is like saying y'all.

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[info]llama_treats
2008-11-25 05:34 pm UTC (link)
That's what "youse guys" is for.

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2008-11-25 06:22 pm UTC

[info]pariforma
2008-11-25 05:55 pm UTC (link)
I say we go back to using "thou" and "thee" for the singular and save "you" for the plural. Also, "man" will henceforth mean "human person irrespective of gender" and "were" (as in "werewolf", yes) will mean "human being of the male sort". Solves everything!

(Yes, I am a nutjob on this point.)

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[info]keri
2008-11-25 08:23 pm UTC (link)
I've argued the same thing with the double modals that are common to Southern American English. "Used to could" doesn't mean the same thing as "used to" or just "could" god-dang-it, so stop telling me I'm an idiot when I use the phrase!

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[info]mindset
2008-11-25 08:56 pm UTC (link)
I love "y'all". Foreign language grammar made me realize there is a need for the second person plural, and I don't care how it looks with where I live. (Is there a word that means "anachronistic", only with location, not time?)

I'm not sure what the difference is between "y'all" and "all y'all" is, though.

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2008-11-25 09:06 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-11-26 02:11 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-11-25 11:44 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2008-11-26 03:44 am UTC
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[info]manny_fish
2008-11-26 02:06 am UTC (link)
Nowt wrong with y'all. At least you guys don't say "cheers heaps" instead of "thank you".

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2008-11-26 03:36 am UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2008-11-26 03:46 am UTC (link)
Damn right. When people up here sneer at my "y'all" in that tone that suggests they're just short of calling me a hick, I respond, "WHAT? It's a perfectly legitimate informal second-person plural pronoun!" And then, most of the time, they either get lost in the grammatical terms or confused that someone they were about to write off as a yokel is conversant with them.

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[info]sharps
2008-11-26 10:57 am UTC (link)
I'm British, so I say "Oi! You lot!" It is suitable for obtaining the attention of those whom you are addressing, and for me it just trips off the tongue easier.

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[info]mmanurere
2008-11-26 05:28 am UTC (link)
People can keep "y'all" as long as I can continue using "dude" as every part of speech (including a few that we're not supposed to have in English).

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[info]singe
2008-11-26 05:44 am UTC (link)
"Dude?"

"DUDE!"

"Oh, duuuude!"

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(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2008-11-26 05:54 am UTC

[info]hallidae
2008-11-26 06:17 am UTC (link)
Y'know, that totally reminded me of Tom Brokaw on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, when he jokingly said (paraphrasing) that unfortunately, f-bombs had become common language verbs, nouns, personal pronouns, even conjunctives.

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[info]ninwhore
2008-11-25 08:09 pm UTC (link)
Things like that are why I hate my partially southern accent. ): I can't help where I was raised! Really!

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[info]napalmnacey
2008-11-25 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Don't hate it, it's gorgeous. I was staying with a bunch of friends in a hotel room for a Xena convention, and the lady I was sharing a bed with was SO sweet, and she had that accent. I could have listened to it for hours, it was like caramel or something. But I'm Australian, so it's all different and romantic for me. LOL!

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[info]ninwhore
2008-11-26 12:23 am UTC (link)
I have this odd hybrid accent, actually. Most all of my family was raised up north but we moved down south when I was still a baby. So I have a sorta northern accent from them with southern bits slipping in from the people around me.

I like... Pretty much every accent that's not American LOL. They all sound so nice.

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-11-26 12:35 am UTC
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[info]platedlizard
2008-11-26 03:26 am UTC (link)
I have a hint of what's called the Oregon Drawl (even though I never lived in any of the rural areas around here), and most people don't know that is so they think I'm a former Southerner.

It's very, very weird.

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[info]kookaburra
2008-11-26 07:05 am UTC (link)
Heh, I grew up around the logging industry here, so I love the Oregon Drawl. It makes me think of flannel and red suspenders.

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[info]singe
2008-11-26 05:45 am UTC (link)
Never be ashamed! It's their asshole problem, not yours.

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2008-11-25 08:56 pm UTC (link)
I get pissed any time I get called a redneck (and it's always Redneck, with a capital R), and anytime I get told I "don't speak English."

Hay guys, guess whut now. I learnt me sum Anglish good startin' in preskuhl. Yeah, because I totally talk like that.

*steams*

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[info]wankismyfandom
2008-11-26 04:09 am UTC (link)
AUGH YES. When I tell people I'm from the American South, they ALWAYS SAY, "But you have no accent!" (Except the one person who said what they all really mean: "But you talk so well!") And, invariably, I reply, "Yep, I know, we's all s'posed-ta talk lyk thay-us, 'ceptin' fer how I'm one-a them thar freeks o' nachur," and then go on in my regular voice.

I have become kind of an asshole about this, true, but not all Southerners are a Jeff Foxworthy punchline.

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(no subject) - [info]sparkysrevenge, 2008-11-26 04:49 am UTC
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