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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-01-27 21:12:00


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American weeaboos. What.
(Part fandom, part otf, part political...heck, I'll just put it here)

[info]rihatsu62 is starting her own comic and she wants [info]brits_americans to know all about it.

Name's Rihatsu, from the UK, and I've just started work on a vigilante-type webcomic, working title Foothold. My main influences are Watchmen, Atlas Shrugged, Bosch Fawstin and those retro 1960s Marvel comics of the Captain America/Iron Man ilk.

In the not-so-distant future, the Union of European Socialist Republics has renounced its history and denounced its culture, semi-Islamising according to popular demand, its economy failing and its people starving. Japan, a closed nation, withdraws from the global stage, its government sending agents across the world to monitor the international situation. The world as we know it is falling apart.

Amidst the chaos, only one nation—the United States of America—retains its former identity and prosperity. But slowly, the social and political institutions of the USA show signs of collapse. Donations of taxpayer's money are sent more and more frequently to the UESR, with no return and no signs of improvement in the recipient nations. The media attacks with increasing frequency and viciousness the industrialists and businessmen of America. The government is distrusted and the Universities preach altruism, relativism and, above all, pessimism.

Coinciding with a series of terrorist attacks that rock Philadelphia to the core, the paths of four unlikely individuals cross, and it soon becomes clear that optimism, individualism and integrity must prevail before America—and the world—can be saved...


[info]brits_americans is less than enthralled, most notably [info]ladykathryn.

That's interesting. It sounds like "V for Vendetta", only without the social insight and cutting criticism of unthinking patriotism, xenophobia, and herd behavior.

The ensuing commotion features a complete and painful lack of understanding of socialism, collectivism, class structure, human nature, and the entirety of American society. I think this particular gem illustrates it well:

What relationship between class and race? Traditionally here, the working class was white English and Irish. This hasn't changed. There are lots of white working classes and lots of black working classes. And while in this country, where class is based more on tradition, there are few black upper-classes, there are a LOT of black middle classes. I'm unsure of the situation in america, but i bet it's less tradition-based and more money based.

Also somehow transhumanism gets into it, I'm not sure what happened there.

Bowing to communist collectivist pressure, she later removes references to Rand from her list of influences for the comic. Sadly, it's still very obvious.


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[info]kadath
2009-01-27 10:42 pm UTC (link)
Sorry Rihatsu, I prefer my thinly-veiled ideological screeds masquerading as entertainment to have a leftist slant.

Also somehow transhumanism gets into it, I'm not sure what happened there.

From what I can tell, Rihatsu just like techno-buzzwords.

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[info]seiberwing
2009-01-27 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Must come from reading the retro comics.

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[info]scifantasy
2009-01-27 11:01 pm UTC (link)
From Luke Ski's "Jack Bauer" (about 24, of course):

"Never before has right wing propaganda designed as entertainment kicked so much ass!"

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[info]derumi
2009-01-27 10:44 pm UTC (link)
LOL, Randholes!

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[info]florence_craye
2009-01-27 11:22 pm UTC (link)
LOL, Randroids!

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[info]bubosquared
2009-01-27 10:49 pm UTC (link)
And while in this country, where class is based more on tradition

... What the hell does that even mean? o_O

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[info]scifantasy
2009-01-27 10:51 pm UTC (link)
I'm unsure of the situation in america, but i bet it's less tradition-based and more money based.

I had to check the original to confirm my reading, but...the OP really is saying that she doesn't think there can be any linkage between race and class, because the classes are all money-based, and therefore race doesn't enter into it.

And she points to Obama as proof.

And she's writing a comic about the greatness of America.

Can you even be jingoistic about another country?

(Actually, this puts me in mind of a friend, who emigrated to the US from the UK. A good guy, but he emigrated to escape what he saw as nanny-stating, so he's a bit touchy about governmental interference. But at least he knows some American history and understands where we fall down.)

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(no subject) - bigi, 2009-01-27 11:40 pm UTC

[info]misachan
2009-01-27 10:52 pm UTC (link)
I have no idea what "semi-Islamising" is supposed to mean. Is Islam an economic model now?

And this: The government is distrusted and the Universities preach altruism, relativism and, above all, pessimism doesn't sound like a dystopian future, it sounds like the '60s. It's not as if mistrust of the government and student protest is a revolutionary concept.

(So, what do we all think happened to South America, since the whole continent's nowhere to be seen? Tidal wave? Capuchin revolution? This is where the story is, people!)

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[info]xero_sky
2009-01-27 10:56 pm UTC (link)
You're right, you're far from an expert here.

Good god, someone's wrong on the internet! Oh, the chafing...

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[info]paladin
2009-01-27 11:02 pm UTC (link)
I predict this is going to move into [info]political_wank territory really quickly

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[info]mmanurere
2009-01-27 11:06 pm UTC (link)
My main influences are Watchmen, Atlas Shrugged,

Heh. I'd like to hear Alan Moore's thoughts on being paired with Ayn Rand as a supposedly compatible ideological influence.

No, Rihatsu, Rorschach is not supposed to be an example of a morally upstanding individual (except for maybe one decision at the end).

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Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]seiberwing, 2009-01-28 01:09 am UTC
Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]re_weird, 2009-01-28 01:23 am UTC
Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]seiberwing, 2009-01-28 01:25 am UTC
Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]re_weird, 2009-01-28 01:50 am UTC
Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]seiberwing, 2009-01-28 02:58 am UTC
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Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]veleda_k, 2009-01-28 02:06 am UTC
Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]risha, 2009-01-28 02:29 am UTC
Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]seiberwing, 2009-01-28 02:58 am UTC
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Re: Plucky girl detective sez... - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-01-28 05:46 pm UTC
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[info]seraphtrevs
2009-01-28 12:22 am UTC (link)
...I'm finding it incredibly jarring seeing a non-American American wingnut. How did that happen? Are they airing Fox News in England now?

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[info]tehrin
2009-01-28 12:31 am UTC (link)
How can Japan be a closed nation if it's sending out agents to monitor the international situation?

Has she even been to America?

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(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2009-01-28 12:32 am UTC
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Totally OT - [info]dragonsong12, 2009-01-28 03:09 pm UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]capsulekei, 2009-01-28 07:07 pm UTC
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[info]bigbigtruck
2009-01-28 01:42 am UTC (link)
W... where's the comic, though?

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[info]vzg
2009-01-28 03:07 am UTC (link)
Coinciding with a series of terrorist attacks that rock Philadelphia to the core, the paths of four unlikely individuals cross, and it soon becomes clear that optimism, individualism and integrity must prevail before America—and the world—can be saved...

Unfortunately, the characters all despair at being in the comic, and collapse into trash heaps, slowly wasting away.

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[info]shaysdays
2009-01-28 03:16 am UTC (link)
Coinciding with a series of terrorist attacks that rock Philadelphia to the core,

LOL. Someone's never been to Philly.

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[info]delineated
2009-01-28 04:06 am UTC (link)
...I'm still lost in the thread that somehow got to the point of "we could grow brains and transplant them into robot bodies and we wouldn't need air anymore! :D!"

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(no subject) - [info]cazrolime, 2009-01-28 08:44 pm UTC
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[info]rotten_fish
2009-01-28 06:25 am UTC (link)
Ameriphile? Americarast? Yankee lover?

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[info]keri
2009-01-28 06:55 am UTC (link)
This wankpost makes me kind of want to read something of Ayn Rand's so that I understand the reference, but I suspect that if I've managed to avoid knowing anything about her other than her followers are kind of dumb, I should keep it that way.

Or possibly look to see if there's a Simple English Wikipedia page on the matter. (I tried the regular Wikipedia page once, and I think I lost some brain cells trying to understand it.)

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LOL simple English wikipedia <3 - [info]keri, 2009-01-28 07:04 am UTC
Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3 - [info]weaselistic, 2009-01-28 01:03 pm UTC
Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3 - [info]serai, 2009-01-28 02:14 pm UTC
Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3 - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-01-29 02:20 am UTC
Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3 - [info]damien, 2009-01-29 08:22 pm UTC
Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3 - [info]littleshebear, 2009-01-29 09:42 pm UTC
The More You Know! - [info]damien, 2009-01-30 09:38 am UTC
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That's what movies are for! - [info]serai, 2009-01-28 02:12 pm UTC
Re: That's what movies are for! - [info]mad_teacup, 2009-01-29 06:24 am UTC
Re: That's what movies are for! - [info]lunarkettle, 2009-01-29 07:42 am UTC
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[info]chibikaijuu
2009-01-28 08:28 am UTC (link)
Please tell me there is a giant robot a la Voltron in this.

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[info]kijikun
2009-01-28 11:12 am UTC (link)
I'll be ignoring everything but the "Captain America/Iron Man" and thinking about them in bed.

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[info]tarash
2009-01-28 02:55 pm UTC (link)
Ah, of course she's an ass, she calls Ayn Rand an influence!

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[info]tiki
2009-01-28 06:58 pm UTC (link)
So much to love about this-- using big words to make herself sound less stupid, check. Setting up a community for her exciting new comic that she hasn't drawn yet, save for a couple of generic character sketches, check. Ayn Rand, check. Proclaiming schools to be a waste of time, check. Idolizing a country she's likely never visited, check. She's the aspiring web cartoonist bingo card.

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[info]nonnyeve
2009-01-28 11:49 pm UTC (link)
....So..is she like a weebo only aimed at the US?

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[info]willywanka
2009-01-31 12:57 am UTC (link)
I've got to admit, this is a nice change from reading about Americans who salivate all over the UK, plan on moving to London "soon", and seem to know absolutely nothing about the culture, politics, or general history of the place (but they watch a lot of Dr. Who, Monty Python, and really loved Spike from BtVS, so they're totally covered).

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