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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-01-27 21:12:00


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American weeaboos. What.
(Part fandom, part otf, part political...heck, I'll just put it here)

[info]rihatsu62 is starting her own comic and she wants [info]brits_americans to know all about it.

Name's Rihatsu, from the UK, and I've just started work on a vigilante-type webcomic, working title Foothold. My main influences are Watchmen, Atlas Shrugged, Bosch Fawstin and those retro 1960s Marvel comics of the Captain America/Iron Man ilk.

In the not-so-distant future, the Union of European Socialist Republics has renounced its history and denounced its culture, semi-Islamising according to popular demand, its economy failing and its people starving. Japan, a closed nation, withdraws from the global stage, its government sending agents across the world to monitor the international situation. The world as we know it is falling apart.

Amidst the chaos, only one nation—the United States of America—retains its former identity and prosperity. But slowly, the social and political institutions of the USA show signs of collapse. Donations of taxpayer's money are sent more and more frequently to the UESR, with no return and no signs of improvement in the recipient nations. The media attacks with increasing frequency and viciousness the industrialists and businessmen of America. The government is distrusted and the Universities preach altruism, relativism and, above all, pessimism.

Coinciding with a series of terrorist attacks that rock Philadelphia to the core, the paths of four unlikely individuals cross, and it soon becomes clear that optimism, individualism and integrity must prevail before America—and the world—can be saved...


[info]brits_americans is less than enthralled, most notably [info]ladykathryn.

That's interesting. It sounds like "V for Vendetta", only without the social insight and cutting criticism of unthinking patriotism, xenophobia, and herd behavior.

The ensuing commotion features a complete and painful lack of understanding of socialism, collectivism, class structure, human nature, and the entirety of American society. I think this particular gem illustrates it well:

What relationship between class and race? Traditionally here, the working class was white English and Irish. This hasn't changed. There are lots of white working classes and lots of black working classes. And while in this country, where class is based more on tradition, there are few black upper-classes, there are a LOT of black middle classes. I'm unsure of the situation in america, but i bet it's less tradition-based and more money based.

Also somehow transhumanism gets into it, I'm not sure what happened there.

Bowing to communist collectivist pressure, she later removes references to Rand from her list of influences for the comic. Sadly, it's still very obvious.


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LOL simple English wikipedia <3
[info]keri
2009-01-28 07:04 am UTC (link)
Because I have learned something new today, and it made me lol mightily:

Objectivism is a political idea that was started by Ayn Rand. It says that the best thing for people to do is try to make themselves as happy as possible and they should always do the thing that they think will help them to do that.
-Simple English Wikipedia



No wonder she's so popular amongst a certain subset of Internet users.

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Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3
[info]weaselistic
2009-01-28 01:03 pm UTC (link)
So why is it called "objectivism" and not "egoism"?

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Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3
[info]serai
2009-01-28 02:14 pm UTC (link)


But that's what sane people call it.

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Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3
[info]cmdr_zoom
2009-01-29 02:20 am UTC (link)
But if what makes you happy is cheating on Ayn Rand, that shit is right out.

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Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3
[info]damien
2009-01-29 08:22 pm UTC (link)
And the difference between that and straight out hedonism is... ?

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Re: LOL simple English wikipedia <3
[info]littleshebear
2009-01-29 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Egoism, oh sorry, objectivism, is a form of sophisticated hedonism. Sophistocated hedonists usually accept that straight forward pleasure seeking will lead to pleasure in the short-term but unhappiness in the long term.

Ayn Rand's theories, as far as I understand them, take elements of Epicurean and Aristotelian ideas about pleasure and excellence, and just take out the parts about how caring about people other than yourself ultimately leads to happiness for you.

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The More You Know!
[info]damien
2009-01-30 09:38 am UTC (link)
Or, in other words, thanks. XD Can't believe that Rand manages to make HEDONISTS look responsible.

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